Vance delivered a speech on AI that is interesting
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Vance is a very capable speaker and he was very eloquent in this speech
I do have a problem with this speech and it is that it is very naive to think AI will only be used to augment worker productivity and that it won't automate away many jobs
Vance makes the bull case for AI by saying that the U.S. will encourage a pro AI regulatory framework with very few restrictions and will encourage the development of an AI without political bias.
The lack of regulation of AI is worrying because we all know the nature of large corporations. They want to save money and if mass automation helps them do that they certainly will.
Vance claims that workers will have a seat at the table but I am skeptical that AI will be used for the good of the American people
I have liked Vance in the Senate and his voting record there.
This overtly pro AI argument from him is concerning to me.
Americans voted for Trump to make our lives better. Ai automating most of our jobs away would be a catastrophe.
Vance certainly minimizes the risks of AI in this speech.
I still like Vance but this is the first thing that he has said that I really disagree with.
Vance is a smart guy and I don't buy that he is naive enough to say that it will not replace American jobs. Vance's ties to Peter Thiel certainly explains why he speaks this way about AI. Thiel's company Palantir is certainly investing into AI massively.
I just don't think it is a good idea to allow AI development to go unrestricted.
I have liked almost everything Trump has achieved in just three short weeks!
This pro AI cheerleading is the one thing that I fear that the Trump administration is making a grave mistake on!
Knowing the nature of large corporations and regulatory capture, this is preferable.
Minimal regulation: they save money with mass automation.
Strong regulation: they save money with mass automation and prevent anyone else from using AI to compete with them.
Exactly this. The genie's already out of the bottle. The best thing to do now is to try and ensure that at least AI development isn't kept under the sole control of a handful of corporate goons.
Also, we don't have to regulate development and access to AI itself in order to try and address some of the risks to workers and the economy. The burden of regulations could instead be applied to the large companies who might try and over-utilize it as a replacement for qualified employees.
But we do have to try to prevent people from using AI to intentionally suppress the opinions of others. There are no "mainstream" AI for normies right now being used to push right-populist rhetoric. ChatGPT does nothing but lie when you try to bring in the dissident side.
So far this is what I'm seeing. Where I work it made Indians useful, it's crazy how a guy who couldn't write a working code now can make something useful in multiple languages. On the other hand it does incentives hiring Indians in India.
Incentivizing outsourcing to India is only the tip of the iceberg if OpenAI or one of their competitors like Xai achieves AGI (Artificial General Intelligence)
It would result in mass automation and millions of people would be out of work immediately.
Consider that AI technology continues to improve year by year at an exponential pace not a linear pace
We could see ridiculously powerful AI technology emerge in the next 5-10 years
I fear it will be too late to stop something like AGI AFTER it has been created.
It is imperative we consider the risks when discussing AI
Vance in this speech massively downplayed the risks of AI and provided a techno-optimist vision.
I just find this disturbing personally
MAGA is a movement for putting Americans first not pushing AI so hard that Americans get replaced by automation.
I agree that Ai will move much faster and with greater consequence than regulation but I'm also convinced it is inevitable.
Simply put we have mass immigration, wars, inflation and all the identity politics that take most of the spotlight. AI is important enough to get attention but not enough as to create well thought out regulation. Everyone cares about using AI to impersonate people and that is about it.
AI is arguably the most important threat to individual liberty right now with only mass immigration matching it.
I also fear that this is inevitable.
The best time to properly regulate AI was years ago.
The next best time is now.
After AGI is achieved, it will be too late!
So, somehow more of an issue than:
Nations and international groups trying to push for digital ID's, while governments enthusiastically pass online verification laws with wild abandon.
Attempts to outlaw/ban VPN's.
Still very much active government/intelligence surveillance programs that collect and store massive amounts of data on people, often without a warrant.
Corporate data collection and the selling thereof.
I mean I'll agree, that AI as a tool is going to make things way easier for various groups in their efforts to collect and store data about individuals. The problem though isn't so much the tools that are being employed, so much as that they're being allowed to collect that data in the fucking first place.
My worry is that AI is a game changer, and whoever doesn’t pursue it is going to lose to the people that do. It’s all well and good to say “American workers need to come first,” and they do, but you also can’t stick your head in the sand and ignore it. Regulating AI too much, assuming it’s not all hot air and does keep improving drastically, is akin to saying that the USSR is welcome to build nukes, but we won’t be doing it, thanks. Probably even worse.
Ask me how I know you don't have any idea wtf you're talking about
As Ender910 pointed out already, you can regulate employment and corporations without limiting the freedom of people to build what they imagine. "Regulating AI" is a greater threat to individual liberty than its existence.
I think our focus should be learning to work with what's there so we can get OUR guys into these new positions AI may create.
We can try to slow it down but more regulations will just make it easier for corporations to take over the AI space and we'll have a Google 3.0 with OpenAI all over again.
STOP HITTING THE ENTER BUTTON ON YOUR FUCKNG KEYBOARD!!!!
Friggin vance, he may claim to be appalachian, but nothing about him says it. Not his accent, not his clothes, and certainly not his view points. He has nothing in common with one.
Really dissapointing, was hoping he could do something different, but nope. Fuck man the last person I knew who even tried to help us out quit along time ago.
Ted Strickland, that guy was a man of vision, created the solar panel industry in ohio (while republicans will claim it was them lmao)
https://www.cleveland.com/business/2008/01/ohio_energy_bill_is_flawed_sol.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/27/kasich-breaks-gop-keeps-renewable-energy-standards/95896582/
Republicans spend years wrecking it only to decide, yeah we like that money. The religious mafia I like to call them, I bet you anything they funnel stolen taxpayer money through their churches.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coingate_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal
But anyway. Had high hopes for JD, but hes a sellout just like the rest. I will say I do respect him. I wanted to join the military, because I was tired of bitching about things, I wanted to be a part of it. But my dad wouldnt let a son of his and I quote "kill anyone" lmao. And thats how vance forged his path.
Got a kick out of trudeau making a plea to him about the tariffs though.
There is prolly no stopping the future, but were like monkeys trying to wield Prometheus's fire. We are messing with things that we prolly shouldnt be able to do yet. And I dont see any scenario where this technology is used for the good of all. Only to enrich the elite and make sure they never lose control, and maybe live forever in the process.
Like this scene from the orville where kelly talks about the rich. I really have mixed feelings about seth macfarlane. I want to like him and he seems based, but he seems in on it as well.
https://streamable.com/exj9od
For people who think these neural nets are just simple lines of code that can be debugged LMAO are prolly wondering how AI would help the elite live forever. Pretty simple actually.
https://theconversation.com/ai-is-transforming-the-search-for-new-materials-that-can-help-create-the-technologies-of-the-future-249392
The AI is helping crunch numbers and do the science, much more efficiently and quicker than a bunch of nerds can manually do, like they were even 20-30 years ago...
Quantum computing is where things will get real crazy. Ive mentioned before, all the computers in the world strung together prolly couldnt emulate 100 or even 10 humans minds. But one quantum computer can. Most of the neural nets now have the brain power of a single cell organism or maybe a insect?
https://medium.com/@oxburybill/neural-networks-in-single-celled-organisms-eedfe2bbbac2
Its strange to me to see programmers who say code could never be alive, but we run on a 4 bit operating system so I dont really get that argument.
Vance's political persona is essentially created entirely by Peter Thiel, Palantir and the CIA.
Him crowing about AI is really just tech bros speaking through him as a puppet.
Your meds are missing you bro...
Peter Thiel, the co-founder of PayPal and Palantir, is Vance's mentor. Obviously, Elon was CEO of PayPal and is now working with Vance directly. Thiel held a fundraiser for Trump at his home, with Vance being Trump's handler -- I said what I said -- and it was all arranged on Trump's promise to support H1B's and cheap energy to fuel Silicon Valley's conquest of AI dominance. This was all mentioned last night on America First podcast [starting @2:55:00].
Also watch The Secret History of JD Vance.
Welcome to the new space race. No one can slow down, as hesitation could lead to a stark technological disadvantage that could loom over the country for decades.
Buckle up, there's really no telling how all this shakes out.
Compare him to Kamala “AI is two letters” Harris
https://x.com/barbietrueblue/status/1889352525498786273
I'm sure Vance wouldn't mind that considering he has a thing for pajeet-esses?
We should want 0, absolutely 0 regulation on AI. We should also want 0, absolutely 0 government funding to AI. As soon as the government starts funding AI projects and starts regulating, that's when we get a Judeo-Ai that becomes as anti-White as it gets.