Not gonna say who I really am, but I have a discord channel involving content creation. A dude/fan/viewer or whatever you call it hangs around for a few years, just says hi and what not here and there. Recently became a tranny and recently got onto PC from console.. so this person is in discord and discord voice more often. It is pretty obvious that my discord is not into woke stuff.
In voice chat, the others and I would talk about.. "yeah trannies and woke in games are bad." And this tranny agrees with our opinion that games are forcing trannies into games and what not. Doesn't really talk about his tranny-ism except once for the past 6 months. Then recently since new years.. it started to pick up where now he makes sure people know hes a tranny and sometimes even brings it up for no reason.
Like he talks about taking "e" (e as in estrogen). And that if his voice changes, that is the reason. He would mention this multiple times. There would be a weird silence and what not lol. Then he asks whats the difference between "then" and "than" and then for no reason posts a before and after picture of him since taking "e". How his mother is a whore and that he has 6 siblings, all with different fathers.. He also claims he always thought he was a female trapped in a male's body since he was little, but then later said that his parents forced him to take estrogen when little lol. Talks about having all sorts of mental illness and clamydia. Batshit crazy. Most of the time, I just say "yeah.." "uh huh", pretty much not showing much interest.
Anyways he is a bit mental. Cant really read/spell. Makes random noises and say random shit for no reason. Annoying enough that I made a separate voice channel that only specific roles can see so we can talk about stuff or game in peace lol.
Funny enough I have a gay friend/viewer that hates gay stuff in games and hates gay pride or whatever. Even hates trannies lol. But he's cool. We call him faggot and make gay jokes with him or at him. He straight up told the tranny that he should take that shit elsewhere and that it makes me uncomfortable. Gay friend understood that him being gay gives him slightly more leeway to tell the tranny to stop.Although.. he doesnt really stop lol. Swear, the tranny has a memory of a gold fish. Says sorry, but does it later a minute or two later.
I now know why youtubers, streamers, or whatever keep viewers at bay or have pretty strict boundaries. Anyways, I thought this tranny would be different.. but it seems they all end up doing the same shit. Making sure people know the are trans and bringing it up for no reason most of the time.
The Camel's Nose
If not yet, he will start DMing people. Casually trying to make the guys call him a girl. "Flirting". Sending pictures to people, the "just try it, I am like... a girlfriend who has your same interests".
Being a tranny isn't about BECOMING a woman. It is about forcing others to treat them the way they think women are treated.
It's an out from perceived oppression. Since it's a lie it slides into narcissism quickly. Dude will be touching kids in less than 3 years.
He probably is already. Along with the fetish aspect the free pass to touch children is their major motivation for trooning out. A run of the mill creep who gets caught fucking kids gets a one way to ticket to PMITA prison. They run interference for a troon who does the same thing lest us bigots draw obvious conclusions.
Yes I agree. I was going to type a whole long comment but this pretty much covered it.
Subversion 101.
Ban the troon.
Anything that encourages excessive online interaction will eventually attract the mentally ill to it. Chat servers are an especially prolific breeding ground for such people because you can always have interactions with others at almost any time, allowing them to quickly work their tendrils into the place and take control. Weird things start happening.
Honestly, this kind of person should have been gatekept earlier from your community. I understand the desire of not wanting to ban/kick people until they actually do something wrong, but trannyism is generally a red flag that's too bright to ignore. Eventually, if there is anyone on the server receptive to this person, a group of them will form. There will probably end up being some drama and shitstirring down the line, and they will make it hard to kick this person without people crying shit like censorship or authoritarianism, and your server will slowly go to shit as people fuck off.
TL;DR: You either ban em now or suffer later.
Server I used to be on had the token tranny that everyone just kinda ignored and they didn't really bother anyone outside the occasional comment about it or something to do with it. Then they invited their 'girlfriend' into the mix, starts talking about all sorts of shit nobody wants to near with em, whined when the regular groups that played together didn't make room for the literal newfag, had some crying fits to gaslight people about it, started messaging people to complain they weren't being included and started outright harassing people to play with them so they and their friend got banned and there is now a unwritten 'no trannies' rule.
Yeah. He is trying to get into everything and try to be part of the group. Trying to be in the "in group"... like "oh, i should get this game to play with you guys". Of course, we are like.. nah this game is not your type or some other crap reasoning.
Im pretty chill. Never kicked or banned anyone unless their account got compromised.
You need to start, before the troon multiplies.
Rip off the band aid.
This is a problem with most tourists in previously niche and socially outcast hobbies, and it only resolves in a good way the more bare bones the tourists are. If it's just Normie MacNormieson who has all the depth of a wooden dental stick used to check the tongue then maybe eventually you can help them grow into being more of a part of the community. Start lumping on shit like SocJus, mental illnesses, and whatever other $CurrentThing is going that month and you're never, ever going to end up with a peaceful situation.
tl;dr Kill it with fire. Discord, the server, and/or the infection.
You already know what to do; the longer you wait the worse it will get.
He knows what caused it.
No... really?
Ban. Don't explain yourself. Delete any YouTube comments from them that appear later that challenge you. Report for harassment if they continue. Don't explain yourself. Ban.
Ban.
He is trying to be the One Good Catgirl. Every fucking time one of these creatures show up in a "based" space, they try to do that. "Sure, other trannies are crazy, but I am like a totally normal knee high sock wearing, UWU dickgirl, don't you think I'm still kind of cuteeee?".
1000000% sure. No tranny is normal. They are just trying to be the Queen Bee. Like I specifically remember, WAAAAAY back in ancient time one of those trying to become the one on KiA. "Sure guys, you are right, this is maness. I'm also like... a gamer gurrrrl. You have to like me, I am a gamer GURRRRL, with a bit of a penis. UWU" I kept asking him questions about how he thinks he is normal and shit, so he got angry, spilled his spaghetti and left.
Why are you being a pussy and trying to pretend horrifying shit is normal? Like he is not sane, he is not normal, nor is he pleasant. Stop being feminized and ban his ass, preferably before he truly feels he can and starts sexually harassing someone. Because that comes next. Trying to "flirt" with unwilling people, trying the CUTESY DISCORDD GIRLFRIEND thing, etc.
Trannies sometimes adopt the “pick me” strategy in yet another pathetic attempt to ape the behavior of real women. The funny part is: even if the tranny succeeds, you should still kick him out - because pick me girls are just as disruptive as trannies in male spaces.
Lol I remember that too. I almost got banned for being mean to him. Same shit as that totally based feminist that kept getting posted. I thought that was a troon too
Are we talking about that Liana one? She was such a Gamer Gurlfraaan, it's not even funny.
They get worse the more time passes after their decision to transition. Eventually, there's no escaping the fact that it hasn't made them feel any less alienated, isolated or miserable and that it's only making things worse. Some who still have a bit of common sense will reverse course when that happens, look for help in the right places and begin detransitioning.
But many will grow even more histrionic and aggressive in their demands for accommodation and validation, as if they think forcing everyone around them to accept their new identity will protect them from having to admit to themselves that they've made a mistake.
he sounds actually autistic with the random noises and random comments. (E: and being trans)
lol voice change, they wish. The women taking testosterone will get voice changes, but he won't. (calling it now, I bet you he starts breathy and/or falsetto speech)
yeah nah most go from kinda based to utter cringe when they troon out, I've seen it before.
I know everyone is saying to ban him. But if you considered him as your friend, or as a brother, and because of his illness, and for Christ's sake, you have a duty to reach out to him and try to help him see the light. It probably won't work. That doesn't mean keep him in your space if he continues with that shit, you can still ban him. I'm saying do it after trying to help if he refuses.
Unfortunately, this. You've got three choices you can make:
I'm too soft about shit like this, so I'd probably grab a handful of my most trusted, longest present, most active mates from the server and see if there was somewhat of a consensus. That runs the risk of starting drama, but so does acting unilaterally. If the rest of your server is normal, neither should be a problem.I've rethought this. Mods would use any discussion to ban your entire server if he made a case of it. Decide on your own and if/when you ban him, make sure you have plausible deniability. Warn or temp ban him a few times for the random noises and other interruptions. Then go for the permaban once there's a pattern of behavior.
I think delaying a permanent ban could result in the issue more clearly being about trannies. If you give this person more opportunity to put their delusions into writing on the server and they do exactly that, it's over. If you outright ban them, you can make up any lie to substantiate the ban (i.e., "I know them in real life and they said they wanted to fuck my girlfriend, so I blocked them everywhere.").
You've changed my mind a bit also, to a degree. Or at least helped refine my thoughts and add some caveats.
if going my route (I still think it is the right thing to do) it needs to be done with care, and without a paper trail if you care about that server/discord account, sure.
Thanks
On the religious thing, I didn't mean take a religious approach with him necessarily (it depends on what you think will get through to someone in the flow of conversation), I more meant that you have a duty for this reason too. It's the why not the how.
I was going to post the EXACT same thing you did.
The only reason I agree with your suggestions is because you can tell this kid is desperately looking for some kind of male closeness; a paternal figure to help guide him because he lacks it in real life.
It's sad, but this might be the only opportunity this kid has at someone willing to tell it to him straight and get him back on the right path in life.
OP should at least take an opportunity to have a heart-to-heart and just tell it like it is: that trooning out is bad; that continuing down this route will ruin his life permanently; that there is no coming back and a lot of mental health and physical health issues will ensue; and that there is a strong likelihood of suicide if he maintains this route.
But ultimately, the choice is either attempt to help him (if he is open to it) or ban him. It's about as simple as that.
The only thing OP should not do is enable him.
You don't know what you're talking about.
What don't I know? Which parts were wrong?
I don't know what tools exactly are available in discord, but I'd just make a rule against "showing your power level" aka handing out excessive and unsolicited personal information. If he persists, suspension. If it's a small server, and he complains that he's being unfairly targeted, have a friend intentionally run afoul of the rule and ban him for a day.
If he comes back, add more time for each suspension until you've impossible1ed him.
No kid gloves, enforce the rule vigorously, (and on everyone) or this will only get worse.
Anonymity should be mandatory on the Internet.
Domeocracy disabled, anarchy only, all-anon.
Well it's called Dick-saw'd for a reason.
I'm also in a server with a troon. A small, near-dead server that actually extends back almost as early as gamergate, but still occasionally sees some chat. He's never mentioned ideology beyond one mention of 'non-binary gender' some years ago, which is now only a vague memory. Still he talks like a cutesy faggot and every couple of years used to post a selfie of himself, overly made-up with a thick neck and adam's apple. Caused no histrionics otherwise, even when members of the server complained about SJWs and agreed with Trump's ban on trannies in the military.
Insomuch as their attention-seeking only extends that far, sometimes forbearance is the watchword. They are damaged people and detransitioning does happen, presumably sometimes just through proximity to sanity rather than direct confrontation. Your tranny sounds like he's pushing further and further though.
It's incredibly easy to just ban troons, queers, and left-style schizos from websites when they don't have a higher ranking troon/ally who can ban you back. You just click the button and they disappear. If they try to come back you click the button again. As long as they have no leverage over you, there's absolutely nothing they can do to you.
forget trannyism, this guy is clearly not a fit for the group in general. just ban him.
Yeah, if dozens of normal people have to be inconvenienced to protect the semi-literate, crazy social retard's feelings, you're making the wrong choices for your community's overall wellbeing.
My first experience with a troon was back in the late aughts when sports Blogspot and WordPress sites were the main hangouts for fans outside of the heavily moderated cable sports network comment section.
I rotated through a small cadre of personal sports blogs daily at the time. One small site updated infrequently but had excellent, in-depth content, particularly on upcoming prospects.
After a few years, one day the owner of the site announced to the world (and in many other comment sections) that they were secretly living as a woman-in-a-man's-body for years but couldn't take it anymore.
They changed their name from Will to Tammy, started using their not-passing-whatsoever Pfp everywhere. This was likely during Obama I. I recall all the other blog owners and anons to congratulate them with nothing but positivity. I don't remember anyone being honest and telling them they were a freak.
I don't recall the troon shit or politics seeping into the actual sports analysis, other than the elephant in the room.
The personal sports blog era was soon killed off by Reddit and Twitter.
I actually came across his Twitter account a couple of years back post-COVID. He predictably had a case of raging TDS along with all the rest of the alphabet mafia regalia.
Rofl, I don't think Reddit was the only thing that killed his blog.
He apparently graduated to the NYT
(Tried to archive but it failed. There's a 2 y/o archive anyway to the landing page)
Edit: Twitter
You could have warned me. I immediately got hammered with all those ugly mugs.
Sorry, should've put a NSFL label.
Find any reason possible to permaban him, including any other troons or fags in your discord. They live to subvert and will end your career.
I learned irl that you can't even be tolerant and polite to them. One tried to stab me because he was pissy about something
Just remembered why he was pissy. I told him to stop trying to touch me all the time
You didn't tell us with what he tried to stab you. 🤣
A knife. I swatted it away with a ping pong paddle
Was a shitty joke on my part, but what the hell.
Well he killed himself with a knife so I got the last laugh. He also threatened to bite a girls throat out because she had the same name as his made up name and someone told him they were talking to the actual girl in question
You're keeping healthy company, rofl.
He was being allowed to come to a church group because they were trying to evangelize to the loon. First and last time I tolerated a tranny being around me
Ignore modernity. Return to TeamSpeak.
Give a temp 3 day ban and tell him that nobody cares what's between his legs and this isn't the place for it. Take that shit elsewhere. That's what I used to do when I modded a sub back on Reddit for a very popular game.
Give a week ban if he does it again and a permanent for strike three.
I take it the sub got nuked once the trannie take-over of Reddit was complete?
I just checked and there's just under 2 million subscribers there now, so it's still going. All I asked as the top mod was for the posts to be related to the game and tranny shit was definitely not.
When the SJW/SRS started taking control we had a few (fake) posts like "A speedrunner just quit the game because she was harassed for being a girl" and I just outright banned that shit. I'd ask for evidence and of course none was ever provided and they got a permaban.
I quit being a mod there just over a decade ago since I had a newborn and my priorities changed. I haven't even really been to Reddit in years until today to check the subscriber count on that sub for you, but man - that site has gone to shit. ..at least the old sub is still going strong.
Only if it was a smaller sub. Otherwise, the tranny admins would ban the mods, declare the sub abandoned, then give it to one of their sexual predator power mods.
Had a friend in my server suddenly troon out after 5+ years and now everything is about hrt and shit. He's a financial backer of my project, so i pretty much have to just endure it for the time being.
Only a beta would put up with that shit. He would be gone in 2 seconds if he did 1/4 of what you said.
Yer banned bud.
This sounds like a textbook case of autism.
One time I was on a Discord which had a channel for anime traps. Someone joined and demanded the name of the channel be changed to "trans" (even though that's not the same thing). We refused and the person called us all bigots and left.
get rid of it before it gets rid of you
Why not kick the troon from the server?
He's a tranny. That alone is reason enough to gatekeep his ass.
You should take your cue from Reddit and see if there is a stealth-ban option. Reddit mods love to stealth-ban dissenting 'political' voices and let them trail off into infinity. And since most Reddit mods are mentally ill trenders. 1 + 1
Karmic justice.
In reality you should have nipped this in the bud the moment he posted his first pic. Now after several years he has developed a parasocial relationship with the chatroom and you. He probably considers you his best friend. :')
The whole point of transing was supposed to be about satisfying the dysphoria. Any trannie that like wants to wallow in and masturbate over the act of transitioning is just a gay psycho. You gotta ban him, it won’t get better
Discord is full of trannies so its question of when and not if this happens.
Anyways, other thing you could do other than ban *him, is tell *him YWNBAW and there's a 41% chance the problem will disappear one day.
Why haven't you banned him yet?