Wicked absolutely flopped overseas. $200 million total box office so far, but 75% of that is domestic. This suggests very limited legs. Against a $160 million budget, assuming ghostbusters 2016 math, Wicked needs to clear $450 million to break even. Seems unlikely.
Gladiator 2 is sort of the opposite. $314 million, and over half of it coming from international markets. Could possibly hit half a billion. But a $250 million budgets means it has almost no chance to break even.
These are not hits. These are actually mediocre performers with decent chances to become flops. Hollywood’s personal media is hyping up the absolute numbers in order to create the illusion of success.
I was on the shitter the other day and reading whatever my phone's algo shows me in the news and one of them was from yahoo (written by Out): Here's every box office record broken by 'Wicked's opening weekend
I said okay, I'll bite, show me the "records" it broke
Fourth biggest opening weekend of all time for a musical film (domestic).
Fifth biggest opening weekend of all time for a musical film (worldwide).
Third biggest opening weekend for a film released in 2024 (domestic).
Biggest opening weekend for a non-sequel movie released in 2024 (worldwide).
10th biggest opening weekend of all time for a film released in November (domestic).
Biggest first day of all time for a film based on a Broadway musical.
Biggest opening weekend for a film based on a Broadway show (domestic & worldwide).
Biggest opening weekend for a film starring Cynthia Erivo (Note: 2018's Widows ($12 million) and 2019's Harriet ($11 million) LOLZ!)
Biggest opening weekend for a film starring a pop star (domestic).
Biggest opening weekend of all time for a movie directed by Jon M. Chu (domestic & worldwide).
It’s like gerrymandering. And their version of “fact checking”. They just conjure ever-more bizarre criteria until they can safely crown themselves triumphant in a meaningless competition that only exists in their own minds.
And they're all subject to inflation fiscally and of scope.
I'd love a ranking of these things by Return On Investment. Biggest opening weekend by R.O.I. I think goes to Joker, but in subsections it would still be interesting to see, since many Broadway Musical movies use B-listers, and thus are much cheaper to make.
“Big bucks” is a relative term.
Wicked absolutely flopped overseas. $200 million total box office so far, but 75% of that is domestic. This suggests very limited legs. Against a $160 million budget, assuming ghostbusters 2016 math, Wicked needs to clear $450 million to break even. Seems unlikely.
Gladiator 2 is sort of the opposite. $314 million, and over half of it coming from international markets. Could possibly hit half a billion. But a $250 million budgets means it has almost no chance to break even.
These are not hits. These are actually mediocre performers with decent chances to become flops. Hollywood’s personal media is hyping up the absolute numbers in order to create the illusion of success.
I was on the shitter the other day and reading whatever my phone's algo shows me in the news and one of them was from yahoo (written by Out): Here's every box office record broken by 'Wicked's opening weekend
I said okay, I'll bite, show me the "records" it broke
Fourth biggest opening weekend of all time for a musical film (domestic).
Fifth biggest opening weekend of all time for a musical film (worldwide).
Third biggest opening weekend for a film released in 2024 (domestic).
Biggest opening weekend for a non-sequel movie released in 2024 (worldwide).
10th biggest opening weekend of all time for a film released in November (domestic).
Biggest first day of all time for a film based on a Broadway musical.
Biggest opening weekend for a film based on a Broadway show (domestic & worldwide).
Biggest opening weekend for a film starring Cynthia Erivo (Note: 2018's Widows ($12 million) and 2019's Harriet ($11 million) LOLZ!)
Biggest opening weekend for a film starring a pop star (domestic).
Biggest opening weekend of all time for a movie directed by Jon M. Chu (domestic & worldwide).
Oh, you made it through this list of records? Here's my go to reaction for shit like this
It’s like gerrymandering. And their version of “fact checking”. They just conjure ever-more bizarre criteria until they can safely crown themselves triumphant in a meaningless competition that only exists in their own minds.
And they're all subject to inflation fiscally and of scope.
I'd love a ranking of these things by Return On Investment. Biggest opening weekend by R.O.I. I think goes to Joker, but in subsections it would still be interesting to see, since many Broadway Musical movies use B-listers, and thus are much cheaper to make.
I think opening weekend ROI goes that belongs to Split by M. Night Shyamaldingdong
Budget 9 million opening weekend of 40 million. Compared to Joker's 55 million budget and 100 million opening.
Maybe some old sub mil film from the 70s or 80s had a better weekend but I'm too lazy to check, I just remember Split being an outlier.
Ironically, that certainly subverts my expectations, a Shamalan movie doing well!