Doesn't that kinda make Scar correct in his dismissal of Mufasa and Simba and make him the good guy? And yes I'm aware some societies had adoptable heirs, like the Roman emperors.
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It just continues the trend that Scar is evil because he is evil and thereby the actions that make him evil were justified to begin with.
Like, the canon of film universe shows he was branded by what is plainly implied to be the Devil with his scar that is a literal corrupting mark while also having his head filled with thoughts of being king instead by said devil. And when he tells his brother what happened, the nigga just says "guess your name is Scar now lol" and laughs it all off.
So its actually pretty consistent that Scar is made the villain through external forces that culminate in him being the vile thing he becomes in the original movie proper. In this case, I'll guess its his parents saw him as evil or arrogant and passed him over because of it without caring how it would effect him.
Its that perfect circular logic that bad story writers use. We know Scar will be evil, so him getting shit on is a good thing the audience will cheer for because he is evil, even if that shitting on is what makes him evil in the first place.
Star Trek has done this. Probably a few times.
Kai Winn in DS9 is a miserable busybody cat lady because she's never actually had any spiritual experiences with the wormhole aliens the Bajorans call The Prophets.
These are known deities that multiple characters meet and interact with, who for centuries would basically send Bajor voicemail in the form of the Orbs. Using one of these would have different effects depending on precisely which one it was, but it included time travel, vision quests, and a whole slew of other things due to the non corporeal and non linear existence of the Prophets who could both perceive and manipulate the galaxy in ways beyond understanding. They even flat out delete an entire Dominion fleet at one point. They really are God-like in what they can do, however extremely detached from reality because they neither exist in it or experience it the same way any of the cast do.
Which leads to Kai Winn being the person she is, and taking the actions she does. She hooks up with the evil versions of the Prophets, the Pah-Wraith, because the Prophets never spoke to her. But the Prophets never speak to her because they know she eventually hooks up with the Pah-Wraith... 🙄
She's entirely a villain of their own making and everything she does which almost leads to the destruction of the Prophets, Bajor, DS9, and the galaxy could have been avoided if the Prophets understood their own lack of awareness of time and linear existence.
It's a slightly different twist on someone using time travel and going back to meet someone they know to be bad only to be the catalyst that makes said person bad in the first place, but it's still the same general principle of using foreknowledge to create a predestination paradox.
Unfortunately, Kai Winn is a basically just an insert for "religion is bad, m'kay" logic that the liberals who watch the show believe. Star Trek normally fails when it comes to religion, and DS9 is the series that actively tries to force the writers to try and give religion some value in the universe, and they still can't help themselves but insert a "evil conservative" character into show that has no redeeming qualities and is the cause of all problems.
I wouldn't entirely say that, especially when you have multiple foil examples of religious figures who aren't assholes and do challenge Winn quite often (Bareil, Opaka, Sisko to some extent).
She is however playing a somewhat common kind of villain though. The uptight, controlling, power hungry, self-serving, finger wagging sort of virtue-signaling villain who tries to pretend like they're a self-sacrificing hero for the people.
In a way she's practically reprising her role as the bitch-nurse from One Flew Over Cuckoos Nest.
I agree that it's not entirely that, because after Gene Roddenberry died, they tried to add depth to the character. I think Gene couldn't see the character outside of his bias.