You send billions, because all your politicians are bought and paid for. Also, half of them got their brain scrambled by a bastardized version of Christianity that tells them to live and die for Israel.
They stand on the back of God and claim they freed themselves just as they strangle the American golden goose and insist their fingernails create value.
I'll forgive them and not ask for a rebate if they teach me how to do that... for no reason in particular (makes list of telemarketers, spam callers, that git trolling in a team based multiplayer etc) /s
That makes it sound far more believable and far more basic, which is probably why its fluffed up in the headline to make them sound super epic and powerful.
LiPo and Li-ion batteries tend to combust more than explode. See the Samsung Note 7 for an example. From doing some basic research for pager replacement batteries, most of them seem to be NiMH which I don't think can actually explode.
Interesting stuff though and a well executed OP from the Jewish glowies.
Worth noting that nobody "properly inspects" anything. That cell phone that was sent to you traveled via FedEx. Picked it up in-store? It was on a truck driving everywhere and stopping anywhere. Distributors? They got palettes from shipping containers after months at sea with crews with God knows what allegiances and prior histories. Even once you get it, it's all glued shut. Even if you could open it without destroying it, could you even understand everything inside it? Explosives work even if the packaging doesn't say "danger, explosive."
On the other hand, modern phones that are glued shut at the factory are very difficult to open up and tamper with without breaking them. So at least there's one upside to not being able to replace the battery when it starts going out.
Only funny until you realize they had no way to guarantee who's pockets those pagers ended up in. But at least hospital workers wouldn't have to go far after getting blown up.
makes sense, and honestly I'm glad. if our day to day devices had this kind of destructive power stored within them, who knows how powerful of a powder keg we'd be sitting on.
Yes.
You're just jealous the Jews did the mini-bomb approach instead of the US. On the other hand striking from the sky is also cool.
And the targets? In both situations they want attacker as well as you (generic Christian Western country) dead, so good riddance.
Your phone likely has a lithium ion battery. that battery can explode, as we saw with the Galaxy Note 7 a while back, but it has a different type of explosion. While the video here seems to be a quick pop that's powerful enough to knock someone down, a lithium ion battery will be more like a sustained flamethrower grenade.
Because hospitals have thick walls and equipment and shielding all over, you cant get a phone signal. Or rather, there are just a few spots where you can get inconsistent half-bar reception and the nurses know where. So they all have pagers.
Tunnelling soldiers probably encountered the same issue (or its a tracing thing as compared to phones)
So I'm guessing that isreal killed more than a few doctors with this too.
And it seems retarded, you had access to all their comms and you just blow it up rather than keep listening in? Or saving that bomb for a necessary moment? Idiots, unless they're going in heavy right now. Or its fake and gay
"We let an attack happen on our land, so we now have permission to violate the Geneva Convention and any innocents that get pager and/or bone shrapnel puncturing their lungs deserves it, I guess."
And it seems retarded, you had access to all their comms and you just blow it up
That's because the headline is bullshit. They did a supply chain attack, put physical explosives in the pagers, and had them rigged to exploded when they received a specific message.
Once they had physical access they could have done a more sophisticated HW attack that would have given them the ability to intercept but that's more complex.
Or you could stuff it with explosive, send "B00M" to that phone number, and blow their nuts off. Also it's great psychological warfare for making them paranoid of absolutely everything.
Because a pager is small, so you can't hide a very big grenade inside it. It might also have been a deliberate decision since you're just trying to kill the guy with the pager and not the entire room.
and why were they targeting a random cashier?
They weren't, the cashier ran off. It was the customer who dropped to the floor after the pager exploded on his waist.
let's assume all the victims were in fact terrorists: Israel detonated the bombs in places where civilians were clearly in danger. it just goes to show that Israel has no regard for civilians when they've identified their enemies. they're happy to carpet bomb civilians if it means one or two terrorists get killed.
they're happy to carpet bomb civilians if it means one or two terrorists get killed.
They could have used that approach here and would have killed more than 9 targets. Can you think of any kind of simultaneous strike against that many enemies that is more surgically targeted than a tiny explosive they're carrying on their body?
Let's not pretend this approach wasn't obviously intended to minimize collateral damage.
Should have just made them target painters and done air strikes then. Would have gotten a lot more than 8 kills out of nearly 3k targets, right? If you don't care about civilians at all, its way more effective.
several of them reportedly hit children
Yeah, at least one Hezbollah guy's daughter got killed. That's unfortunate. Maybe they should have waited until he was at a big social event with other people and done a drone strike like Obama would have. That would have minimized collateral /s.
This attack was more precise and accurate than the usual strategies. That doesn't mean it was perfect.
You surely have the numbers how many dicks exploded today, how many of them died and how many civilians were injured in the process.
I personally haven't looked at stuff much, and the only vid I saw was the one inthe grocery store with people nearby. They didn't seem harmed, so unlikely that any civilian was "in danger".
And I still wait for them to carpet bomb a region to kill terrorists. Look up Dresden - over 25k dead within 2-3 days. Where are those numbers from Israel? They don't exist.
So you'd be okay with mossad going in and killing these people individually?
You're over here going to bat for killing civilians. Do you really want to take the moral high ground here?
I'm going to guess you were on the side of the Israeli prison guard who said he HAD to rape a prisoner with an iron bar because it was self defense. 'cause you know, restraining a guy and repeatedly sodomizing him with a foreign object is just something that happens.
again, assuming they are actual terrorists plotting to attack israel, yes.
the question of whether or not they are actually targeting terrorists vs random disconnected people who understandably hate Israel is another question entirely.
he has 10% of a point, jew that he is. if your enemy's civilians are completely supportive of your enemy (understandably) and let them use these tactics you have little recourse but to just start killing the supportive civilians too.
if they're not completely supportive, then they're completely incompetent and ought be receptive to being evacuated/selected through by the invading force so as to get rid of the combatant force in their midst they don't want there.
if they're not supportive, incompetent, and not receptive, then you have to revert to the medieval tactics of just killing civilians if you feel like it, otherwise your war is literally impossible (as we saw with the US having to leave the middle east instead of glassing it). the idea of civilians being sacred is a modern development, after all.
of course, this is all philosophical musing and speculation. i'd much rather the mohammedans win, they're an easier enemy after israel is gone.
This also presumes good faith on the part of the forces pushing the evacuation. At this point I see a concentrated effort of genocide perpetrated by OUR GREATEST ALLY.
ought be receptive to being evacuated
Yeah, about that. A month or two people trying to evacuate were getting bombs dropped on them.
I also like from a few weeks back "Hey, I know we've been shooting you all for the last several decades, stealing your land, and bombing your evacuees, but let's have a cease fire so we can give your kids injections."
I think you are a terrorist. I said it, you have no chance to refute the claims before or after an attempt on your life which could easily kill your family is made. How confident are you in my assessment? Would you be willing to stake your life on my judgment?
You know an easy way to determine if someone is a terrorist (or otherwise an enemy)? If they're a member of a group whose stated goal is your destruction.
We send billions in financial aid to a country that has the ability to explode cellphones of foreign nations?
they also have nukes.
And they own the people who "control" ours
You send billions, because all your politicians are bought and paid for. Also, half of them got their brain scrambled by a bastardized version of Christianity that tells them to live and die for Israel.
Where do you think they get the money to rig exploding pagers?
Fucking riggers.
They stand on the back of God and claim they freed themselves just as they strangle the American golden goose and insist their fingernails create value.
I'll forgive them and not ask for a rebate if they teach me how to do that... for no reason in particular (makes list of telemarketers, spam callers, that git trolling in a team based multiplayer etc) /s
Apparently, Israel seized the shipments of these pagers from Taiwan before they were delivered and embedded explosives inside the devices.
Hezbollah fucked up twice by not property inspecting the merchandise and losing sight of the manufacturing and delivery process.
That makes it sound far more believable and far more basic, which is probably why its fluffed up in the headline to make them sound super epic and powerful.
Yeah that's closer to reality. You can't instantly detonate lithium batteries, even if they are explosive.
LiPo and Li-ion batteries tend to combust more than explode. See the Samsung Note 7 for an example. From doing some basic research for pager replacement batteries, most of them seem to be NiMH which I don't think can actually explode.
Interesting stuff though and a well executed OP from the Jewish glowies.
Worth noting that nobody "properly inspects" anything. That cell phone that was sent to you traveled via FedEx. Picked it up in-store? It was on a truck driving everywhere and stopping anywhere. Distributors? They got palettes from shipping containers after months at sea with crews with God knows what allegiances and prior histories. Even once you get it, it's all glued shut. Even if you could open it without destroying it, could you even understand everything inside it? Explosives work even if the packaging doesn't say "danger, explosive."
I'm not in a hot war with anyone...
.. yet.
On the other hand, modern phones that are glued shut at the factory are very difficult to open up and tamper with without breaking them. So at least there's one upside to not being able to replace the battery when it starts going out.
Awww.
I realize that remote exploding electronic devices is a bad thing. But damn if it's isn't also funny as shit.
Only funny until you realize they had no way to guarantee who's pockets those pagers ended up in. But at least hospital workers wouldn't have to go far after getting blown up.
No you misunderstand me. Planting explosives in pagers is boring.
Laser activating normal pagers so that they explode IS funny.
I would like jews to have access to neither technology. But the second one DOES make me laugh.
Normal pagers don't contain explosives. The most they could do to them is cause them to overheat and catch fire while charging.
Correct. Which is why the idea of space jews making them explode with super Lasers is funny.
You tistic?
I agree it is quite a funny situation.
Damn jews blowin up my cell phone.
AND IM NOT TALKING ABOT THEM DAMN TELEMARKETERS
makes sense, and honestly I'm glad. if our day to day devices had this kind of destructive power stored within them, who knows how powerful of a powder keg we'd be sitting on.
I'm sure detonating bombs is illegal. This is worse than Obama's random drone attacks on civilians.
Except these aren't random, they're Hezbollah members having their dicks blown off.
Obama also targeted specific individuals. You tell me if they ever did collateral damage and why you expect this program to have a 100% accuracy rate.
There's always collateral damage in war, and Obama killed thousands of civilians- how many "innocents" did this op kill?
Yes.
You're just jealous the Jews did the mini-bomb approach instead of the US. On the other hand striking from the sky is also cool.
And the targets? In both situations they want attacker as well as you (generic Christian Western country) dead, so good riddance.
No, I hold the exact same position here as I did toward Hezbollah using IEDs in Afghanistan. "No."
A child died.
well, there's clearly fewer innocents harmed than with the old procedure of blowing up the whole building...
8 dead, 2750 injured.
If this was any faker and gayer it would be owned by Mindgeek.
for those wondering:
Your phone likely has a lithium ion battery. that battery can explode, as we saw with the Galaxy Note 7 a while back, but it has a different type of explosion. While the video here seems to be a quick pop that's powerful enough to knock someone down, a lithium ion battery will be more like a sustained flamethrower grenade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx9jfJB60io
I was wondering why they still made pagers.
doctors and hospital workers all still use them
Because hospitals have thick walls and equipment and shielding all over, you cant get a phone signal. Or rather, there are just a few spots where you can get inconsistent half-bar reception and the nurses know where. So they all have pagers.
Tunnelling soldiers probably encountered the same issue (or its a tracing thing as compared to phones)
So I'm guessing that isreal killed more than a few doctors with this too.
And it seems retarded, you had access to all their comms and you just blow it up rather than keep listening in? Or saving that bomb for a necessary moment? Idiots, unless they're going in heavy right now. Or its fake and gay
Or people driving, which then leads to an out of control car rolling through a crowd.
"We let an attack happen on our land, so we now have permission to violate the Geneva Convention and any innocents that get pager and/or bone shrapnel puncturing their lungs deserves it, I guess."
that one the muslims are used to though.
Fair enough. I HAVE seen first hand how they drive over there....
That's because the headline is bullshit. They did a supply chain attack, put physical explosives in the pagers, and had them rigged to exploded when they received a specific message.
Once they had physical access they could have done a more sophisticated HW attack that would have given them the ability to intercept but that's more complex.
Or you could stuff it with explosive, send "B00M" to that phone number, and blow their nuts off. Also it's great psychological warfare for making them paranoid of absolutely everything.
Ahaha, the look of utter disgust on that guy's face is hilarious.
That was actually my first question.
Why wasn't it more powerful? and why were they targeting a random cashier? I still think this was just a battery exploding randomly.
Because a pager is small, so you can't hide a very big grenade inside it. It might also have been a deliberate decision since you're just trying to kill the guy with the pager and not the entire room.
They weren't, the cashier ran off. It was the customer who dropped to the floor after the pager exploded on his waist.
it's being reported on in the news. there's a body count.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hundreds-wounded-dead-beirut-after-israel-remotely-detonates-hezbollah-pagers
I've read that since and seen more videos.
How much damage does a flamethrower grenade do?
depends on how much flammen it werfed
I walked right into that one, didn't I?
That wasn't a hack. They had to have physical access to each pager and load an explosive charge in then.
That's some genuinely fascinating cyberwarfare shit right there.
Israel went all 'Make-A-Wish Foundation' on them and gave them their life long dream of dying as a suicide bomber in the name of their cause. :')
It's an epic op, though, and Hezbollah is never going to live this one down.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That's very clever, actually.
Doing them a favor really. We all know how much muzzies like exploding things.
Bunch of terrorists got hurt or killed. Good riddance.
let's assume all the victims were in fact terrorists: Israel detonated the bombs in places where civilians were clearly in danger. it just goes to show that Israel has no regard for civilians when they've identified their enemies. they're happy to carpet bomb civilians if it means one or two terrorists get killed.
They could have used that approach here and would have killed more than 9 targets. Can you think of any kind of simultaneous strike against that many enemies that is more surgically targeted than a tiny explosive they're carrying on their body?
Let's not pretend this approach wasn't obviously intended to minimize collateral damage.
surgical my ass. They detonated bombs in the middle of city streets and inside homes. several of them reportedly hit children.
Also, no recon would have been done on the targets other than "they bought a pager". I have no doubt thousands of Innocents were caught up in this.
Story has been posted over on the News win and reports 8 died while 2750 were injured.
Should have just made them target painters and done air strikes then. Would have gotten a lot more than 8 kills out of nearly 3k targets, right? If you don't care about civilians at all, its way more effective.
Yeah, at least one Hezbollah guy's daughter got killed. That's unfortunate. Maybe they should have waited until he was at a big social event with other people and done a drone strike like Obama would have. That would have minimized collateral /s.
This attack was more precise and accurate than the usual strategies. That doesn't mean it was perfect.
You surely have the numbers how many dicks exploded today, how many of them died and how many civilians were injured in the process.
I personally haven't looked at stuff much, and the only vid I saw was the one inthe grocery store with people nearby. They didn't seem harmed, so unlikely that any civilian was "in danger".
And I still wait for them to carpet bomb a region to kill terrorists. Look up Dresden - over 25k dead within 2-3 days. Where are those numbers from Israel? They don't exist.
8 dead, 2750 injured.
they already quite literally literally carpet bombed Gaza.
How else are they supposed to get rid of the terrorists, when they only hide among innocent people?
Just curious
actual covert ops, just like every other country in the world. you don't kill civilians, even by accident, unless you want to breed more terrorists.
So you'd be okay with mossad going in and killing these people individually?
The civilians also hate the jews, so I'm not surprised Israel doesn't really care
You're over here going to bat for killing civilians. Do you really want to take the moral high ground here?
I'm going to guess you were on the side of the Israeli prison guard who said he HAD to rape a prisoner with an iron bar because it was self defense. 'cause you know, restraining a guy and repeatedly sodomizing him with a foreign object is just something that happens.
IDK, maybe he's a FATAL GM or something.
No, I actually said if he's guilty he should be in jail (and I wouldn't feel bad if he got the same done to him).
Collateral damage in war happens. That's reality.
Maybe you guys are just npcs too.
Bro....
again, assuming they are actual terrorists plotting to attack israel, yes.
the question of whether or not they are actually targeting terrorists vs random disconnected people who understandably hate Israel is another question entirely.
Do you think Britain would have stomped out the IRA with a bombing campaign?
rent. free.
Holy shit, dude. Did you think before you wrote that?
We’re seeing the tribe reveal their absolute sociopathy in real time here.
Yes, I did. When terrorists (who are trying to kill you) hide among innocent people, how are you supposed to kill them first?
This isn't a war where carpet bombing is cool, and there aren't military targets. So I'm asking, what do the galaxy brains here think should be done?
Assume the terrorists are actual terrorists and should be taken out.
I have no words.
he has 10% of a point, jew that he is. if your enemy's civilians are completely supportive of your enemy (understandably) and let them use these tactics you have little recourse but to just start killing the supportive civilians too.
if they're not completely supportive, then they're completely incompetent and ought be receptive to being evacuated/selected through by the invading force so as to get rid of the combatant force in their midst they don't want there.
if they're not supportive, incompetent, and not receptive, then you have to revert to the medieval tactics of just killing civilians if you feel like it, otherwise your war is literally impossible (as we saw with the US having to leave the middle east instead of glassing it). the idea of civilians being sacred is a modern development, after all.
of course, this is all philosophical musing and speculation. i'd much rather the mohammedans win, they're an easier enemy after israel is gone.
This also presumes good faith on the part of the forces pushing the evacuation. At this point I see a concentrated effort of genocide perpetrated by OUR GREATEST ALLY.
Yeah, about that. A month or two people trying to evacuate were getting bombs dropped on them.
I also like from a few weeks back "Hey, I know we've been shooting you all for the last several decades, stealing your land, and bombing your evacuees, but let's have a cease fire so we can give your kids injections."
Okay, so you don't kill the terrorists, and they kill you (and rape your wife and kids). How does your moral high ground feel?
Retarded takes on combat on this sub.
Please keep telling us how the IDF bombing civilians, basically on purpose, is a good thing. It's quite educational.
I think you are a terrorist. I said it, you have no chance to refute the claims before or after an attempt on your life which could easily kill your family is made. How confident are you in my assessment? Would you be willing to stake your life on my judgment?
You know an easy way to determine if someone is a terrorist (or otherwise an enemy)? If they're a member of a group whose stated goal is your destruction.
I know this is hard, but use your brain cells.
You're actually retarded and missed the point completely. Good job.