Climate Change being real, and being anthropogenic, doesn't mean that we should eradicate our economy by hiking our energy costs, submitting to CCP imperialism by making them the sole source of our energy infrastructure, and killing 50% of the planet's population by ceasing the use of fossil fuels. Don't even get me started on farmers being attacked for putting excess nitrogen in the water supply while cities are over-flowing the water supply with micro-plastics, fentanyl, and estrogen.
Take care of your shit and don't pollute, then all of the sudden you'll have a better environment.
Vance is aware of the damage that pollution can do from the East Palestine disaster, but that doesn't mean that the solution is Full Communism Now.
Climate change isn't real let alone anthropogenic.
Destroying whole forests and farmland for cheap/dense housing to hold all the illegal immigrants who won't fix their shit in their lands? Yeah - that's real.
Think that affects the water supplies in the area? Oh yeah. (Wondering why there's a drought in California when rainfalls have been statistically average? That's why)
Think that affects the energy supply? medical supply? police? cars?
Now do you think anybody in California REALLY cares about "Climate Change"? Or is that just a lie, created by Enron, to create the first bitcoin and told to children to get them to eat their bugs ?
Climate Change is absolutely real, even if you don't like the anthropogenic part.
If you can't accept that temperatures were different in previous eons, when the day-night cycle and the atmospheric concertation was different, then there's nothing to talk about. If you don't think the different element concentrations and day-night cycle don't effect climate, then there's no reason for me to believe that fossil evidence of tropical conditions would convince you. Ever.
Frankly, I don't understand why you would imagine humans could alter their immediate environment, if you don't believe that the climate changes.
Destroying whole forests and farmland for cheap/dense housing to hold all the illegal immigrants who won't fix their shit in their lands?
If you don't believe in anthropogenic climate change, you don't believe that the destruction of forests can have any effect, despite it having immediately measurable effects. By your logic, there is no explanation for any climatic outcome for bulldozing a forest and putting up apartments would have any effect.
If you can't accept that temperatures were different in previous eons, when the day-night cycle and the atmospheric concertation was different, then there's nothing to talk about. If you don't think the different element concentrations and day-night cycle don't effect climate, then there's no reason for me to believe that fossil evidence of tropical conditions would convince you. Ever.
I do believe in this. Which is exactly why I think the "anthropogenic" part is inadequately proven. How the hell are you using "the climate changes drastically over long periods of time throughout the Earth's history" to support the conclusion that any climate change we see must therefore be the work of man?
Because the changes in temperature are never as sudden as the speed we've seen since the industrial revolution. It's accelerated in a way that doesn't naturally occur anywhere else.
We have effectively (or are effectively) ending the Ice Age over the span of 200-300 years. Major planetary transitions like this ten to take at least 10,000 years, but could take as long as several hundred thousand years. The new normals then last tens of millions of years.
The magnitude of the change is smaller, but the rate of change hasn't been matched outside of mass extinction events. We're not as fast as a 6 mile wide asteroid hitting Mexico, but we're certainly causing a rapid change, and one that isn't likely to only continue at this fast pace given the melting perma-frost emitting methane into the atmosphere.
Climate Change being real, and being anthropogenic, doesn't mean that we should eradicate our economy by hiking our energy costs, submitting to CCP imperialism by making them the sole source of our energy infrastructure, and killing 50% of the planet's population by ceasing the use of fossil fuels. Don't even get me started on farmers being attacked for putting excess nitrogen in the water supply while cities are over-flowing the water supply with micro-plastics, fentanyl, and estrogen.
Take care of your shit and don't pollute, then all of the sudden you'll have a better environment.
Vance is aware of the damage that pollution can do from the East Palestine disaster, but that doesn't mean that the solution is Full Communism Now.
Climate change isn't real let alone anthropogenic.
Destroying whole forests and farmland for cheap/dense housing to hold all the illegal immigrants who won't fix their shit in their lands? Yeah - that's real. Think that affects the water supplies in the area? Oh yeah. (Wondering why there's a drought in California when rainfalls have been statistically average? That's why) Think that affects the energy supply? medical supply? police? cars?
Now do you think anybody in California REALLY cares about "Climate Change"? Or is that just a lie, created by Enron, to create the first bitcoin and told to children to get them to eat their bugs ?
Climate Change is absolutely real, even if you don't like the anthropogenic part.
If you can't accept that temperatures were different in previous eons, when the day-night cycle and the atmospheric concertation was different, then there's nothing to talk about. If you don't think the different element concentrations and day-night cycle don't effect climate, then there's no reason for me to believe that fossil evidence of tropical conditions would convince you. Ever.
Frankly, I don't understand why you would imagine humans could alter their immediate environment, if you don't believe that the climate changes.
If you don't believe in anthropogenic climate change, you don't believe that the destruction of forests can have any effect, despite it having immediately measurable effects. By your logic, there is no explanation for any climatic outcome for bulldozing a forest and putting up apartments would have any effect.
Predates Enron.
I do believe in this. Which is exactly why I think the "anthropogenic" part is inadequately proven. How the hell are you using "the climate changes drastically over long periods of time throughout the Earth's history" to support the conclusion that any climate change we see must therefore be the work of man?
Because the changes in temperature are never as sudden as the speed we've seen since the industrial revolution. It's accelerated in a way that doesn't naturally occur anywhere else.
We have effectively (or are effectively) ending the Ice Age over the span of 200-300 years. Major planetary transitions like this ten to take at least 10,000 years, but could take as long as several hundred thousand years. The new normals then last tens of millions of years.
The magnitude of the change is smaller, but the rate of change hasn't been matched outside of mass extinction events. We're not as fast as a 6 mile wide asteroid hitting Mexico, but we're certainly causing a rapid change, and one that isn't likely to only continue at this fast pace given the melting perma-frost emitting methane into the atmosphere.