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Atlantic: America Fails the Civilization Test (archive.is)
posted 3 years ago by Ahaus667 3 years ago by Ahaus667 +11 / -0
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– Assassin47 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Atlantic: America Fails the Civilization Test

Yes but not for the reasons they claim.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

What if I offered you a pill and told you that taking this mystery medication would have two effects? First, it would increase your disposable income by almost half. Second, it would double your odds of dying in the next 365 days. To be an average American is to fill a lifetime prescription of that medication and take the pill nightly.

Funny coming from people who have shorted kids lives by decades to push “quality of life”

What is going on here? The first logical suspect might be guns. According to a recent Pew analysis of CDC data, gun deaths among U.S. children and teens have doubled in the past 10 years, reaching the highest level of gun violence against children recorded this century. In March, a 20-something shooter fired 152 rounds at a Christian school in Nashville, Tennessee, killing three children and three adults, before being killed by police. In April, a 20-something shooter killed six people at a Louisville, Kentucky, bank, before he, too, was killed by police.

No the logical suspects are over processed foods, rampant drug abuse, and morbid obesity being celebrated

When I reached out to Burn-Murdoch, I expected that these three culprits—guns, drugs, and cars—would explain most of our death ratio. However, on my podcast, Plain English, he argued that Americans’ health (and access to health care) seems to be the most important factor. America’s prevalence of cardiovascular and metabolic disease is so high that it accounts for more of our early mortality than guns, drugs, and cars combined.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with healthcare and everything to do with- diet, drug use, and exercise…

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– Kienan 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

According to a recent Pew analysis of CDC data, gun deaths among U.S. children and teens...

Yeah, but they use "teens" to mean everything up to 19, then try to lump it all back into "children." Gun deaths among actual children is still extremely low, they just fudge the statistics.

In March, a 20-something shooter fired 152 rounds at a Christian school in Nashville, Tennessee, killing three children and three adults, before being killed by police. In April, a 20-something shooter killed six people at a Louisville, Kentucky, bank, before he, too, was killed by police.

Two interesting things here. Note only one of them has their gender mentioned. Huh, wonder why. Secondly, and more interestingly to me, they try to make them sound younger, for whatever reason. The "20-somethings" were 28 and 25.

...However, on my podcast, Plain English, he argued that Americans’ health (and access to health care) seems to be the most important factor.

Does the parentheses mean he didn't say that, and the author is putting words in his mouth? Also, I love the use of "he argued" when the article then goes on to agree with the data that poor health " accounts for more of our early mortality than guns, drugs, and cars combined." Still, gotta cast doubt by trying to make it sound vague. Tweaked statistics that back up your side? It's "studies show," "experts say," " analysis shows," "CDC data," etc. Someone brings data you don't like? "He argued."

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– ghostfox1_ 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Both of the shooters were leftists, and one was a tranny, but they can't mention that.

Or that most crime is committed by blacks.

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– cccpneveragain 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

If true, why not take that deal? 50% more disposable income for a negligible additional chance of death? Okay. I mean what is my chance of dying today to start with? Fractions of fractions of a percent I assume. That's on average too. I don't drink often, smoke, do drugs, live in the hood, etc. I don't really want to equate money with a good life, but properly used that money can help make a better life. So you're offering me a better life for an increase in some really small statistics. Okay.

I had that type discussion with people during the height of Covid clown world a ton. I have no interest in being alive for the sake of satisfying a statistic that says my heart is beating and my lungs are breathing. So many seem to value being alive over wanting to be alive.

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– TheModernDaVinci 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

You can even lower issues with health by just doing even basic exercise. I lost 20 lbs just by changing to a new job, without even changing my diet, because my day job became "Lifting 60 lbs of iron and swinging hammers all day". Even just going for some walks and bike rides can at least get some cardio built up to allow you to work better with the weight.

But we all know how the Left feels about that sort of stuff.

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– cccpneveragain 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That too. I was just talking about that with someone last night. I hate the whole going to the gym and working out thing but I enjoy getting out and riding my bike or just walking and doing some very simple weight training. I'd gotten into a bit of a lazy routine earlier this year and getting back to it made me feel like a different person, mentally and physically.

I credit this for back in the 2020 Covid mess I caught it from a bunch of family and it lasted like a day for me, because I was walking 2-3 miles a day on average then. Most of the family I caught it from get out of breath on a single flight of stairs and of course they actually get sick. They don't want to listen to me though, they don't have time they are so busy, the food channel or whatever isn't going to watch itself.

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– TheModernDaVinci 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I have always compared my exercise routine to a bear: Other than the machining job, when it is winter I dont do a ton of exercise except some simple indoor stuff. But once spring, summer, and fall hit, I am out hiking on trails through the prairie in my state, biking the trail that goes around my town (with about 30 mile round trip), and swimming when the weather is warm enough. Then winter hits and I go right back inside.

To that end, I dont get sick with anything, never mind Covid.

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– SouthsideSeneca 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Because increasing my disposable income by 50% would still leave me at $0.00 of disposable income a week....

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

The true test of a civilization may be the answer to a basic question: Can it keep its children alive?

Who is advocating for genocide of the unborn? Who hands a pass to trannies gunning down school children?

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– FrozeInFear 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

I thought the test was the grocery cart return thing. Was that not it?

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– cartoonericroberts 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

It's not just that the standard american diet is unhealthy, few would argue that, it's that the "healthy" american diet is also unhealthy. Feeling unhealthy? Well try this canola and mungbean slop! It'll fix you right up.

Southpark actually had a surprisingly good take on this. Eric was angry that the school was moving to plant based meals but then relaxed when he realized it was just replacing mechanically separated meat goo with plant based goo.

As for healthcare, for acute conditions, america's actually pretty good; if you have a ruptured appendix they will fix you right up. But for chronic health conditions; if there isn't a test for it and a pill to give you if you fail the test then they don't give a flying fuck. They just want to turn you into a lifelong pharma customer.

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– cccpneveragain 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I always find it funny when they go after butter for being bad then will go all crazy about how great their vegetable oil spread is. It's solidified milk fat versus solidified oil fat. At least one of them is good to drink prior to making into butter.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Some coworkers took me to a vegan restaurant once that had a bunch of stuff like that, including some sort of vegetarian "mayonnaise". Eating there was an exercise in finding the most normal/least processed thing on the menu.

On the plus side, a lot of the things declared "unhealthy" such as fattier cuts of pork and chicken end up being cheaper than their lean counterparts. Can get beef fat at the butcher shop for cheap to render for tallow, and it ends up costing about as much as canola oil would.

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Vegans don't exist in nature. It's not like they can go paleo. Their whole diet can only exist with a grocery store supplying them food.

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– acp_k2win 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Let me guess... not communist enough?

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Civilization is measured by the length of the bread line, obviously.

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– ArtemisFoul 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Derek Thompson was born in McLean, Virginia, the son of Robert Thompson and Petra Kahn

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So there is some inverted-U curve when examining healthiness (Y-axis) vs richness, and the US is on the shit side of it. Not exactly groundbreaking shit here.

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– covok48 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Switzerland has no blacks. That’s why.

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