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SoctaticMethod1 17 points ago +17 / -0

From the parts I saw from reviews and other YouTubers, the game isn't bang over your head messaging but boring, poorly optimised, blank and flat characters, lack of interesting game design with tedious side quests.

Which seems very common with 'diverse' development teams. They worry more about relating it to the current day, they have no idea how to make it fun and interesting.

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Rattatata 13 points ago +13 / -0

“Let’s moan about college loans…”

“Are you sure this will help us sell a video game?”

“Video games?”

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RaisingPhoenix 9 points ago +9 / -0

Its writing is catastrophically bad too

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SoctaticMethod1 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is the list of the top of my head games that gamers want remakes/updates to make them more playable now that would bring LOTS of money:

Saints Row 2

Command & Conquer Tiberian sun

ANY of the Bethesda Fallouts, just give them a fucking new engine already, you have Id you cheap fucks!

No re-imaginings or story/gameplay changes, just give them a upto date engine and a graphical update.

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Lurker404 3 points ago +3 / -0

The devs don't listen because they don't want to listen.

They don't want to make a game their customers want to play. They want to make a game they think their customers should play.

Same shitshow as modern journalism where journos don't write what happened but what they want people to think.

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Norenia 9 points ago +9 / -0

"Fans?" Don't they mean "terrorists?"

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dagthegnome 6 points ago +8 / -2

The only Saints Row games are the first two Saints Row games and if you think differently you are wrong.

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MegoThor 8 points ago +8 / -0

Saints Row 2 was a basic, but well done, GTA clone. The series found its own voice with 3 and 4.

I’ve loved all the SR games that I’ve played, but the reboot looked awful from the get-go.

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ImThrowing4U 5 points ago +5 / -0

Piss off cunt, 3 was the best. After that it sank like a lead weight.

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Piroko 1 point ago +1 / -0

Stillwater was a better map and the radio stations were better.

The experience of going onto the interstate in SR2...

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Galean [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

The game, as far as I've seen, does not have a woke message to beat you with but the characters are unlikable and the gameplay is boring. It was advertised as being a lot more woke then it actually was.

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cccpneveragain 6 points ago +6 / -0

That's as much of a problem as the woke in games. New games just suck in general. Myself and the people I play with have gone months vying for new, fun stuff to play together and just keep being disappointed over and over again. We'd probably buy anything if we thought it would be fun because we want to spend time together, and if you're not in the same town gaming is one of the only things you can do. Instead everything that comes out is either dreary boring, a free-to-play grind with little content, or bugged to the point it ruins the experience.

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Lurker404 6 points ago +6 / -0

characters are unlikable and the gameplay is boring

So it's Saints Row 4? IMHO that's when the series jumped the shark. The whole "it's all a simulation and you're a superhero" thing killed it for me. The point of Saints Row was that it's wacky and over the top behavior in a realitic-ish world. When everything is fake nothing matters.

a lot more woke then it actually was

The screenshots look 100% woke. The only white people are the victims on the ground. The game's homepage looks like Twitter fanfic or a DIE seminar, complete with rainbow suspenders.

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nuggetpatrol 4 points ago +4 / -0

SR4 was supposed to be DLC for 3. But THQ dying off forced them to make it a sequel instead because it did so much extra.

It was supposed to be non canon.

The new one is the kind of game that the saint's would make fun of.

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current_horror 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, this keeps happening lately. There’s a reboot or a sequel that looks super woke, the devs hype it up as super work, and then after it comes out, a bunch of people claim it wasn’t really that woke.

Then I give it a look only to discover that it is, in fact, leftist as fuck. Like Prey, which got all this love from even the alternative critics on YouTube, and the movie ended up being girl power idiocy from start to finish.

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FlauntandStraunt 3 points ago +3 / -0

Saints 5 should've gone full Sci-fi LARP as 4 kinda leaned into. Space Boss setting up a Earth Colony and Finding allies Star Trek style.

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truenationalist 3 points ago +3 / -0

Embracer group was always going to be this way. Total shitshow unfolding.

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nuggetpatrol 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even die hard fans of saint's row dislike this. There are comments on the official youtube videos discussing the how and why it could be improved.

The reviews for this have all been terrible.

From the get go they were told this isn't what people wanted. They said to wait and see. So they waited and saw. And it still sucks.

It wouldn't be so bad if the game actually functioned. co-op is a de-sync nightmare and tons of missions will fail for reasons beyond your control because things just don't work right.

The wingsuit addition is probably the only positive it has, and even that doesn't always work right.

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Galean [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

They say it is divisive but all I've heard is disappointment, nothing divisive except maybe some twitter bots