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Kaarous 40 points ago +40 / -0

They're shocked that surrogates are expensive. I can't roll my eyes harder or they'll flip backwards.

Smith1980 27 points ago +27 / -0

They come off as being angry about how biology works

ThatsAlright [S] 23 points ago +23 / -0

Many such cases. Shulamith Firestone is a great example.

In The Dialectic of Sex, she argues that we should invest in advanced technology in order to free women from childbirth.

She regarded pregnancy and childbirth as "barbaric" (a friend of hers compared labor to "shitting a pumpkin") and the nuclear family as a key source of women's oppression.

Yet men, as a result of the Oedipus complex and the incest taboo, are unable to love: they must degrade the women they make love to, in order to distinguish them from the mother, the first and forbidden love object. They cannot simultaneously respect and be sexually attracted to women.

By eliminating the biological family and the incest taboo, the feminist revolution will enlarge the opportunity for real heterosexual love, as well as legitimating every other type of voluntary sexual relationship.

“[S]hould [a child] choose to relate sexually to adults, even if he should happen to pick his own genetic mother, there would be no a priori reasons for her to reject his sexual advances, because the incest taboo would have lost its function.”

“Thus without the incest taboo, adults might return within a few generations to a more natural polymorphuous sexuality, the concentration on genital sex and orgasmic pleasure giving way to total physical/emotional relationships that included that. Relations with children would include as much genital sex as the child was capable of — probably considerably more than we now believe.”

Kaarous 21 points ago +21 / -0

You know, when I was a kid I wondered why they burned witches. Now I wonder why we don't.

ThatsAlright [S] 14 points ago +14 / -0

why they burned witches

Much of it came from personal animosity/conflict with other people.

Now I wonder why we don't.

We kinda do, it's merely done in name of racism, though. For example, here's a kid being arrested for "racism" online towards a rich soccer player:


Or harassment, abuse, and doxing of Sarah Dye, a mother of three boys and a farmer:


Or a girl being doxed, with people threatening they'll go to her place and kill her because she wore a shirt at a party they didn't like, and the tweet of her doxing reaching 20k+ likes:


Or Convington Kids, etc. These are merely examples - there are countless people who face the same, and worse, on daily basis. For what it's worth, many witches weren't killed:

While execution was a common form of punishment for those found guilty, in some places up to 75% had their lives spared and they instead received non-capital sentences, such as corporal punishment, imprisonment, or banishment, the last of which was often considered worse than death.

Meanwhile, those who were acquitted or set free were often shunned by their neighbors who in some cases were those that accused them in the first place, and they had to live in fear of physical assault and lynching by the villagers who believed that justice wasn’t met.

AlfredicEnglishRules 7 points ago +7 / -0

So many are pushing for this.

Steampunk_Moustache 1 point ago +1 / -0

Seems fine to me.

Once we have that we can just exterminate all females - they serve no other purpose.

Steampunk_Moustache 5 points ago +5 / -0

In The Dialectic of Sex, she argues that we should invest in advanced technology in order to free women from childbirth.

I can't wait for Axolotl Tanks.

TheImpossible1 -3 points ago +1 / -4

That wouldn't go the way she'd think.

Would many people in power listen to women if they weren't key to birth rates?

You'd just have to shut the people up screeching "it's unnatural".

Steampunk_Moustache 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah, she's a moron.

The result of artificial wombs is that women are obsolete and men no longer have to tolerate women's mindgames and and can have a son whenever they please. Only a minority would choose to have a daughter.

In a world with artificial wombs, I can envision middle america filling with sects of men living in all-male communities raising farmer-warrior cults.

Smith1980 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wow. That is scary

almond_activator 3 points ago +3 / -0

Spend a month reading the foundational writings of feminism, and your politics will inevitably shift in an ... impossible direction.

They're all this unhinged.

cccpneveragain 28 points ago +28 / -0

You're missing 50% of the requirements to have children. So, yeah, you're expected to be OK with it.

Skywise 16 points ago +16 / -0

My risky sexual lifestyle and attitudes lead to STDs - I demand insurance coverage for prep and hiv for equality!

My gay lover and I have to hire a surrogate to have children - we demand insurance coverage to pay for the surrogate for equality!

It’s insanity defined but maybe we should start playing their games.

We demand that all people over the age of 18 receive one AR-15 for defense purposes and equality as it’s an enumerated right in the constitution.

SR388-SAX 10 points ago +10 / -0

Also monthly shipments of 100 rounds of .223 hollow point and 500 rounds of FMJ.

Skywise 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah - I fully support a "bullet stamps" program!

barwhack 12 points ago +12 / -0

You are not CAPABLE of having legit children. You can have poops. Congrats on your poor life choices.

OldBullLee 3 points ago +3 / -0

Another thread discusses the latest in troon accessories--plastic fetuses/newborns to be inserted into the rectum.

This novelty item can also serve as a dildo for whoever wants to insert the replica of a baby into whatever orifice.

truenationalist 10 points ago +10 / -0

Pay for the anti-HIV drugs, pay for the surrogates, pay for the therapy for the sexually abused children.

TheImpossible1 -3 points ago +3 / -6

Pay for the maternity leave, pay for the welfare, pay for the trans kids their influence creates. Oh wait, that one's fine because we can't criticize those people.

Don't act like this isn't just tradcon whining about the idea of women's role in a child's life being fucked off.

This could be the path to creating artificial wombs, to "help the gays" but also crush the More Feminine Way.

truenationalist 5 points ago +5 / -0

Women shouldn't be in the political sphere for the reasons you bring up.

GiveThemNothing 9 points ago +9 / -0

I support them. If they win, it will open the door for single men to also be eligible for IVF/Surrogacy benefits, for which single women already are today.

APDSmith 8 points ago +8 / -0

What happens when the right to parenthood involves someone else’s body?

How about what about when it involves someone else's money?

For men and women, spending the evening in making children is one of the cheaper ways to spend your time, at least in the short term. The expensive bit comes later on.

These to want to make everybody else pay because under their circumstances even the cheap bit is expensive.

TheImpossible1 -3 points ago +2 / -5

Oh please, women shitting out kids they didn't really want to try and trap a man is the majority of tax money out the window. At least these people actually want the baby.

APDSmith 3 points ago +3 / -0

What did you think I was referring to when I said "the expensive bit comes later on"?

TheImpossible1 1 point ago +3 / -2

The divorce.

APDSmith 2 points ago +2 / -0

Actually, yeah, that's a fair point. I should have been clearer.

Nathrandir 7 points ago +7 / -0

No, you’re expected to die of AIDS.

Now get to it, faggots.

JustHereForTheSalmon 6 points ago +6 / -0

Faggots can't deny nature and literally make an impossible baby happen? Wow, another problem for the government to swoop in and "fix".

evilplushie 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fucking retards

Medicnz3 4 points ago +5 / -1

Stupid faggots are just going to molest whatever kid they get.

truenationalist 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's how they reproduce

alucard13mmfmj 3 points ago +3 / -0

reproductive rights.. lol why not say. i demand 50,000usd a month because it will help me reproduce. rofl.

SoctaticMethod1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Your choice in who you exclusively have sex with naturally means that you require a third party to produce offspring.

Because of that, all laws, exemptions and benefits that come with pregnancy should be exempted from you. The only caveat is lesbian couples in that they don't get benefits or aid during the initial fertility treatments but can receive maternity leave if one of them is carrying after success impregnation.

LastRights 2 points ago +2 / -0

Explain that Guardian picture at the top, while there are several pictures of the two guys in the article, and they're white. Also, this article is way too long.

censorthisss 2 points ago +2 / -0

This will eventually become a pet project for Democrats and they'll find a way to force insurers to cover it, which will obviously increase the cost of everyone else's coverage.