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cartoonericroberts 38 points ago +38 / -0

I think this is just how "science" works now. No matter how damning the data your conclusion just has to say the words. Every mask study has had similar results to mask studies done for the last hundred years but with the exception of that one Danish study they all said the words.

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dagthegnome 26 points ago +26 / -0

That's how they get funding. They only get to keep doing "science" at all for as long as somebody's willing to pay for it.

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RaisingPhoenix 6 points ago +6 / -0

This is Canada, so I personally think they still recommend it so they don't get thrown in jail

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MassivePecorino 2 points ago +2 / -0

Comrade Kondratiev, Comrade Stalin has decreed that you are to discover the means to overcome the capitalist "Invisible Hand". You have been successful, yes? cocks Makarov

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Galean 25 points ago +25 / -0

A friend of mine recently had to go to the ER because of heart problems, he was the among the first I know to get vaccinated and was even bragging about it. He got boosters and all, he seems to think the 2 are completely unrelated, how can anyone think it is normal for a healthy 40 year old that has a low stress life with no prior conditions to just develop heart problems.

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TomSeeSaw 4 points ago +4 / -0

He's either got heart problems or head problems. You now know which.

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GeneralBoobs 20 points ago +20 / -0

"Never admit you are wrong, especially when you are wrong! This is a sign of weakness. We have no place for weakness in the face of our enemy. They will look for any advantage to destroy us and our world." - Progressives, probably.

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DNA1 19 points ago +19 / -0

I don't know about the number of deaths, but the aviation industry isn't doing too hot either:

Effects are less pronounced because the percentage of pilots that quit or were fired/laid off due to mandates had an immediate, more visible impact in an already limited, extremely specialized work force.

People have almost become accustomed to flight delays and cancellations, but it doesn't seem like it's done thanks to the high altitude factor.

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SoctaticMethod1 15 points ago +15 / -0

I know they rolled out this vaccine as a test of loyalty but man didn't see the deathcult side coming because typically you only want your brainwashed idiots dead when you're fully in charge and the populace fear you

Other than China and Russia, not really the case

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Ahaus667 9 points ago +9 / -0

They’re not dead…

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Barndoorbanjo 12 points ago +13 / -1

Then thier life expectancy has been reduced by at least half. Look up the effects of myocardial. It's not a one off episode that you just get over. It ruins how you live and shortens what time you have drastically.

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AntonioOfVenice -11 points ago +3 / -14

That is definitely not demonstrated for vaccine-induced myocarditis. You can't rely on studies done on chronically ill patients and generalize to vaccine victims.

Why don't you just say "I don't want the vaccine", instead of making stuff up? It's a perfectly legitimate position for a vaccine that does not have a long period of testing, and which uses a new technology.

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Barndoorbanjo 9 points ago +9 / -0

You admit I refer to real studies but disagree with the use then say I'm making things up? What did you mean by this?

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AntonioOfVenice -8 points ago +2 / -10

I mean those skeptical of the Covid-vaccine in general. You need only look at this very post, and that's what you were replying to.

That those with vaccine-induced myocarditis will have similar mortality as those with chronic heart/health problems is an assumption, one not backed by any evidence that has emerged so far.

It would be nice if those who are rightly skeptical of government and 'public health' were also skeptical of what they read on random websites, but no such luck.

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Barndoorbanjo 10 points ago +10 / -0

No explanation for your contradiction. Opinion discarded.

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current_horror 9 points ago +9 / -0

Motherfucker won’t step a single toe in the other rolling vax thread because he has nothing to say there. He just does these driveby “akshully” posts in the threads where he thinks he has some advantage.

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AntonioOfVenice -4 points ago +2 / -6

There was no contradiction, but you do have to 'discard' as you cannot refute.

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DefinitelyNotIGN 5 points ago +5 / -0

Your point was "I have zero evidence. Your evidence is possibly in some situations less than 100% reliable. Therefore I'm right. Antonio, away!".

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SR388-SAX 7 points ago +7 / -0

That those with vaccine-induced myocarditis will have similar mortality as those with chronic heart/health problems is an assumption, one not backed by any evidence that has emerged so far.

But it's a completely reasonable assumption to make until there is data to say otherwise. "Cases of myocarditis (aka part of your heart fucking DYING) causes these effects," therefore cases of myocarditis (again, aka part of your heart fucking DYING) caused by this new thing is likely to also cause these effects."

It's not like it's some sort of special kind 'vaccine'-induced myocarditis where the cells in your heart are only mostly dead. They're dead. They're never coming back. And the effects of having parts of your heart being DEAD are likely to be the same, regardless of why parts of your heart DIED.

What a fucking cope. You made a bad call on this so-called vaccine and it looks like you're going to ride it into insanity. Here, I'll give you some good news to help let you off of your guilty conscience: you aren't personally responsible for any of this. You were just a useful idiot. You can turn it around at any point by just saying, "oh hey, maybe we should have given these jabs a little bit more scrutiny before mandating that everyone on the planet be injected with them?"

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AntonioOfVenice -6 points ago +1 / -7

But it's a completely reasonable assumption to make until there is data to say otherwise.

Why should there be a presumption in favor of that hypothesis though?

It's not like it's some sort of special kind 'vaccine'-induced myocarditis where the cells in your heart are only mostly dead. They're dead. They're never coming back. And the effects of having parts of your heart being DEAD are likely to be the same, regardless of why parts of your heart DIED.

I think there is a huge difference between the risk for someone who has a myriad of health and heart problems, including myocraditis, and someone who only has that. Now, if all these people had heart problems following, like some people who suffered after taking the vaccine have, it would be a different matter. It does not seem to be like that.

You made a bad call on this so-called vaccine

What was my bad call?

You can turn it around at any point by just saying, "oh hey, maybe we should have given these jabs a little bit more scrutiny before mandating that everyone on the planet be injected with them?"

How is that a 'turn'? I've always opposed mandates.

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Noctuner 4 points ago +4 / -0

There's so far no differences between "standard" myocarditis and covid-vaccine induced myocarditis. Heart damage is heart damage. Inflammation is inflammation. The heart takes a very long time to regenerate, if at all, because it is constantly in use, contrary to any other muscles that can rest. That's why myocarditis is always bad, no matter how mild it is, because it's almost always permanent damage.

Until long term studies are done to spot any difference, we can only assume myocarditis are the same for now in both cases. Oh, but wait, so far, there's no studies in effect, because "There's no vaccine side effect, and if you dare say otherwise, we will cancel you everywhere and revoke your license". So yeah, good luck proving anything.

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cartoonericroberts 7 points ago +7 / -0

The deaths and the myocarditis are two distinct events.

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AntonioOfVenice 7 points ago +8 / -1

The title conflates them though. There's no "2 doctors" that died from myocarditis. 2 doctors got myocarditis.

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Soperp 3 points ago +3 / -0

yes they are

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Vicenzo 3 points ago +3 / -0

They are referring in the tweet to the recent deaths on top of these 2 cases of myocarditis

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Ricky_CIA 8 points ago +8 / -0

"A thousand dead doctors is a price worth paying to keep MY grandmother safe!"

Leftism is just unchecked, malignant narcissism.

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GimmeFuelGimmeFire 3 points ago +3 / -0

All of these doctors are just Mengele with better PR. All of them need to be arrested, tried, and sentenced to lethal injection.

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GimmeFuelGimmeFire 7 points ago +7 / -0

Leopards vaccinated my face

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FutaCumDiet 7 points ago +7 / -0

I have completely lost all hope for the medical field in my country. They want me to wear the face diaper despite the fact that I haven't had any symptoms of COVID since the whole thing started. Half the reason I've been losing weight (down almost 80lbs in a year) and avoiding processed shit is so I wouldn't have to go in for any purpose beyond 'carried in on a stretcher'.

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AntonioOfVenice 3 points ago +6 / -3

The title is incorrect. The doctors in question did not die. From the article:

Doctor 1:

After three days of treatment, his hs-cTnT levels were down to 0.056ng/mL. He was discharged with Ibuprofen and Metoprolol.

Doctor 2:

He was discharged with full recovery after two days of observation and symptomatic treatment

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9304948/