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randomuser88385 32 points ago +32 / -0

This is a specific soy formula for infants that can't tolerate milk based. You can see ingredients list here for regular stuff.

https://abbottstore.com/infant-and-child/similac/similac-pro-advance/similac-pro-advanceinfantformulapowder/similac-pro-advance-infant-formula-powder-30-8-oz-66439e.html

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Assassin47 25 points ago +25 / -0

Slightly better. Also most of the strange sounding chemicals are just vitamins, minerals, and sugars. It is a formula after all.

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hungryfreaksdaddy 8 points ago +9 / -1

The third ingredient is unhealthy seed oil.

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Assassin47 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't know anything about it, but a quick search gave me some sites with reported health benefits and a couple that said it was terrible. It can be solvent expelled or expeller pressed. The latter seems to be more common, though who knows what these formula companies are using.

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ObsidianSword 5 points ago +5 / -0

Seed oils are converted to trans fats and aldehydes (basically poison) inside the human body, because they are chemically unstable. It doesn't help soy/safflower seed oils are solvent extracted then heat treated, that process oxidize the oil a lot. Babies should never ever consume such thing.

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 5 points ago +15 / -10

This frothing-at-the-mouth anti-formula movement is seriously confusing. It's like people are trying to cope by claiming that actually it was bad all along and it's a good thing that nobody can get any. And, as is tradition, they do it by lying and overreacting like any given Twitter drone.

It's also very interesting how the most pro-life people (not judging, I myself am circumstantially pro-life) are also the most anti-formula, despite the fact that formula by itself is responsible for cutting infant mortality in half if not more. If you want to retvrn to lack of formula, you're also advocating for the retvrn of 5% of babies dying before they reach the age of one.

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el_hoovy 10 points ago +16 / -6

i'll take 5% dead babies over 50% retarded ones any day of the week

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 3 points ago +7 / -4

Then you're going to need a time machine, because that change is here to stay, and it's not because of formula.

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el_hoovy 5 points ago +14 / -9

yes goyim there is nothing you can do just accept the retardation hehehehe

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 2 points ago +3 / -1

I never said that. I just can't go into more detail without breaking a KIA2 rule.

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el_hoovy 0 points ago +4 / -4

tel aviv is 25% gay

the demons do not escape hell

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FutaCumDiet 4 points ago +6 / -2

Your Nestle paycheck go through yet?

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 3 points ago +4 / -1

Nestle makes formula? I thought they just made low-mid-tier chocolate.

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justicein2020 9 points ago +10 / -1

nestle makes pretty much everything.

you have shit they made in your kitchen and don't know it most likely.

takes high effort to avoid them.

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 5 points ago +5 / -0

I do what I can to avoid megacorp products, because I hate them almost as much as they hate me. It really is virtually impossible though. Still, I do my best. If everyone cut their megacorp consumption by just 10%, that would mean the megacorps' profits reduce by 10%, which would mean the death of most if not all of them.

Walmart raked in $572 billion dollars last year, with a net income of $13.6 billion. Reduce that revenue by 10% and their net income is now negative $43 billion, which wipes out almost 20% of their total assets. Five years of that and Walmart would be dead.

People don't realize how much power the average consumer has by simply not consuming. The real trick is to get people to listen.

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Shill4Hire 3 points ago +3 / -0

Your math is a bit off, but overall your heart is in the right place.

If you buy a $20 item from Wallmart, they don't make $20 in profits. They make $2 in profits, and $18 in product delivery and expenses. The reason they drive small businesses out of business is they can operate on such thin margins for a long time. So cutting their revenue by 10% really would only cut their profits by 1%, if the above example were accurate, and I think that is more or less their margins give or take a couple cents.

It still has a strong impact, though. As per your example, you'd halve their profits with a mere 10% reduction, which while not putting them out of business, would get their board of directors on the asses of everyone with any level of decision-making power.

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TheModernDaVinci -1 points ago +8 / -9

Its not just on this. I have noticed a lot of people who are becoming actually, unironically regressive on a great many issues. And I cant understand why, other than for some reason they seem to think that the momentum is on their side and people want some ultra-traditionalist society.

When in reality, most of the backlash to the Woke and the rise of Populism is related to "We just want the government, society, these retards who believe woke shit, ALL of them, to leave us alone!"

And if people listen to the other retards who are doing things like saying "Hey, we should use the momentum to do things like ban porn.", I hope they are prepared to lose that momentum. Because it aint going to fly.

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Adamrises 17 points ago +17 / -0

other than for some reason they seem to think that the momentum is on their side and people want some ultra-traditionalist society.

Or, maybe, a lot of people are realizing the depths of certain lies they have believed their entire lives and are now unable to trust any thing they are being told.

This is what "question everything!" and all those platitudes eventually leads to. People so unable to accept anything that every single thing must be rejected or questioned to a degree nothing can pass.

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ApexVeritas 11 points ago +12 / -1

The modern world has resulted in our modern problems. To correct the problems, reverse what's been done. It's not a difficult concept. Adamrises mentioned the other aspect of it. The people have been lied to, over and over, about everything. How could we trust institutions which have lied to us, which have hurt and killed millions of people? For context, if you don't know about confirmed conspiracy theories, and what governments (including the U.S. government) have done to its own people, then you won't know what I'm talking about. I wish I could tell you to do a deep dive into this subject and that it'd be easy to learn about, but most large conspiracy forums have been subverted and corrupted. This site's conspiracy forum is pretty good, but not as active as R/conspiracy used to be (before it was taken over by shills). If you'd like, I can give you examples off the top of my head, to give you a head start on what to search for.

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TentElephant 11 points ago +11 / -0

The people's opinions do not matter and have never mattered. Culture is downstream from law.

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Assassin47 2 points ago +3 / -1

What defines law? Are the elites not part of the culture?

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TentElephant 4 points ago +4 / -0

"Culture is downstream from law," is an oversimplified rebuke of populist delusions about power. The culture of the governing elites, which is derived from their base values and what Pareto calls sentiments, is enforced downwards onto the ruled through both formal laws and unofficial policies. The main point is that culture flows downward from the sovereign, which is he who decides the exception, to the populace. In order to change the culture, it is necessary to change the governing elites.

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MargarineMongoose 6 points ago +6 / -0

Its not just on this. I have noticed a lot of people who are becoming actually, unironically regressive on a great many issues. And I cant understand wh

Much of what we learned growing up was an outright lie. Why cling to a lie?

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throwawayaccount2037 3 points ago +3 / -0

A lot of people find comfort in lies... even those who claim to hate them.

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NoEyesNoGroin 4 points ago +5 / -1

I wouldn't drink that and I'm an adult (arguably).

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0000Titan 3 points ago +4 / -1

Why? It reads like a protein/meal replacement shake. Almost all those ingredients are just vitamins, minerals, and amino acids.

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GoldenInnosStatue 3 points ago +3 / -0

contains soy oil AND soy lecithin

just what a growing baby needs!

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Ohdeerlordman 25 points ago +26 / -1

In the 90's I remember moms all claiming formula babies turn out to be fags. Hilarious how soybois continued the meme.

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ApexVeritas 9 points ago +11 / -2

There are lots of people that claim "sugar is sugar". While it's true that breastmilk contains sugar, it's not the same. For example, the use of modern sugar and carbs has resulted in drastically reduced tooth and mouth health. Ancient peoples had great teeth, and had no need for braces or modern dentistry. The use of modern sugar and carbs has changed that, even altering our bones and teeth in the womb. It's why so many people get cavities and need braces to fix what sugar has done. Now, if ancient peoples didn't have this problem, but breastmilk has sugar in it, then clearly not all sugars are the same, or have the same effects on people.

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Grumman 8 points ago +8 / -0

You're forgetting that your milk teeth start falling out by the time you're six, so even if breast milk was bad for your teeth you'd be starting over with a fresh set after you've been weaned.

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ApexVeritas 4 points ago +6 / -2

Except that adult teeth are formed in the womb at 6 weeks. Even though it's rather grim, look at pictures of a child's skull. They have their baby teeth, and directly above are the adult teeth, hidden within the jaw bones. If modern people are developing crooked teeth which require braces, and ancient peoples didn't have that problem, then something modern is causing it. The consensus is that it's sugar.

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jrbelmont 8 points ago +8 / -0

Ancient people had fucked up teeth all the time. It's just that if you couldn't eat you died.

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ApexVeritas 1 point ago +2 / -1

Except that we have records of the bones. We can literally look at ancient people's skulls and teeth. If what you say is true, then we should find just as many skulls of ancient peoples with bad teeth as modern people, but we don't. Did all ancient people have perfect teeth? Of course not, but they had far healthier teeth than we do today. Even mainstream sources admit this. Here are some links:

https://truththeory.com/scientists-reveal-ancient-romans-healthier-teeth-diets-low-one-substance/

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=167917

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/prehistoric-humans-had-better-teeth-than-we-do-26567282/

https://stanfordpress.typepad.com/blog/2018/05/why-cavemen-needed-no-braces.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/02/24/172688806/ancient-chompers-were-healthier-than-ours

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jrbelmont 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're experiencing gell-mann amnesia. These are the same people that lie constantly about everything they can. Ancient humans didn't have as many sugar-driven cavities as we do today but they did have severe issues like their teeth literally being ground down or shattered from lower quality food.

And remember, we don't have the skull of everyone everywhere to have ever lived. There's a huge selection bias here.

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ApexVeritas 0 points ago +1 / -1

I agree that the mainstream media lie almost all the time. However, that doesn't mean everything they say is wrong or a lie. Sometimes the truth slips through. For example, the New York Times actually reported on rampant pedophilia in New York Jewish communities (even orthodox ones) several years ago. Just because they lie about everything else doesn't mean they were lying, or wrong, then. To suggest otherwise would be to slip into the "well Hitler drank water" meme. In general, though, extreme caution should always be used with any source from the mainstream. They're known liars.

Furthermore, just because we don't have the skulls of everyone that ever lived doesn't mean we can't do comparative analysis of the skulls we have. Even using a small fraction of the skulls available, we can determine averages and see trends. I've heard that info before that ancient humans lost their teeth over time due to their diet. However, that doesn't disprove what I posted. They could have a much higher average (per capita) of straight and healthy teeth, but due to eating more veggies, which would be washed less and contain more dirt than veggies today, and would chew on more bones for marrow, would grind down their teeth more (even though their teeth were on average healthier).

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RealDrJester -6 points ago +2 / -8

No, breast milk lactose(sugar) is different from plant sugar. The other plant sugars, the body doesn't know trhe difference.

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Assassin47 23 points ago +23 / -0

CORN SYRUP - It's What Babies Crave!

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CarmenOfSandiego 16 points ago +16 / -0

It's got electrolytes!

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SolidSnakeOil 19 points ago +19 / -0

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to sell food in the US unless it has some amount of corn in it.

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NihilistCaregiver 21 points ago +21 / -0

Old but still relevant read about those fucking corn farmers who are slowly ruining everyone's life:

https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1074810043495796736

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MassivePecorino 28 points ago +28 / -0

The problem is that the corn farmers are not mom and pop operations anymore... it's now a wholly owned subsidiary of Monsanto.

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ApexVeritas 8 points ago +10 / -2

Yep. This is why GMO crops were created in the first place. Non GMO crops couldn't handle the amount of chemical sprays the globalists wanted to use. So, they genetically modified them to tolerate the increased chemical spray use. Thus, all GMO crops are heavily laden with chemical sprays which are hurting and killing people. Glyphosate is probably the most famous modern one, but there are many others. There's also lots of evidence that the polio epidemic (which led to the rise of vaccinations) was caused by heavy metal toxicity from chemical sprays on produce. Polio symptoms are nearly identical to heavy metal toxicity. Magically, when the U.S. stopped using those chemical sprays, polio went away. Unfortunately, the vaccine and pharmaceutical industries claimed a victory, and we've had to live with their bullshit since.

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NihilistCaregiver 7 points ago +7 / -0

Better link thread without the stupid replies: https://twitter.com/swiftonsecurity/status/1100890266175787008

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan -1 points ago +7 / -8

Sometimes I feel like I'm in an alternate universe. I can probably name ten meals in the past month that are corn-free even by this schizo's insane standards (ahh but did you know that chicken you ate breathed the same air molecule that once touched corn haha checkmate).

Every meal in the past year contains corn? The past decade? What the fuck are you people doing, drinking Coke and eating Fritos all day every day? Cook a goddamn steak, jesus fucking christ. Anyone who thinks this is an even remotely reasonable thing to say has some major problems, and diabetes is almost certainly one of them.

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redman012 12 points ago +12 / -0

I’m honestly curious, name the ten meals.

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 3 points ago +5 / -2

I regularly eat steak with butter, salt, and pepper. Green beans, asparagus, maybe some Brussels sprouts, all cooked and seasoned by me. That's probably five meals in the past month right there. Swap out the steak with chicken and the butter with nothing, there's another three or four. I make almost everything myself, and if I don't make it I personally vet the ingredients.

So a conservative estimate for the last month at this point is eight, and I've just described two mainstays for dinner. I also regularly make soups, always from scratch, except for the stock which I always buy as low ingredient as possible. If it has anything other than salt and meat in it, I don't want it.

For snacking, I've had mixed nuts, some tofu with unsweetened soy sauce, hard boiled eggs with salt, rice with meat and beans, oatmeal with agave syrup, or smoked fish on crackers, just to name some of my favorites. The crackers contain no corn. I just checked.

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ApexVeritas 9 points ago +11 / -2

I hate to burst your bubble, but most factory farmed animals are fed a grain diet. This means they're probably fed lots of corn. The crap those animals eat affects their products (meat, fat, milk, and eggs). To get truly corn free animal products, you need to buy the ones that specifically say they're organic, naturally raised (free graze) and fed, without hormones or antibiotics.

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 2 points ago +4 / -2

The original tweet specifically says that an animal that ate corn doesn't count as "eating corn". If it does, we might as well just say that corn touched the same planet as our food and therefore everything we eat is corn, because there is essentially no material in or on this planet that hasn't interacted with corn, or any other plant, in some "six degrees of schizophrenia" way.

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ApexVeritas 6 points ago +7 / -1

Except we know that diet (natural grazing versus grain/corn fed), lifestyle (natural grazing versus pens or lots, some where the animal sees no sunshine), injections (hormones and antibiotics), and the like can affect animal products. As to the rest, stop being hyperbolic. I'm simply pointing out that most of the factory farmed animals are fed grain/corn diets, which ends up as most of the packaged meat, milk, and eggs in our grocery stores.

However, there is some merit to how large factory farming affects the entire world. For example, it's now almost impossible to find wheat or flour which isn't contaminated with glyphosate. Officially it's used as an herbicide. Unofficially, farmers use it as a desiccant, to dry the crops out, so they can harvest it all at once. It's a laziness factor. Some crops are so heavily laden with it that it has to be tested so it doesn't ruin downstream products. One example is hops and beer. If hops have too much glyposate, it will kill off the yeast and prevent fermentation (meaning no beer). Anyway, glyphosate is so heavily used with wheat, that the spray ends up in neighboring farms (even ones that don't use chemical sprays). There are very very few places left that are producing glyphosate free wheat. It's not just wheat, corn, and hops either. They spray that shit on fucking everything. Some produce you can get most of it off with baking soda soaks, but many others you can't, and it's used in lots of processed foods you can't get it out of.

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RealDrJester -8 points ago +1 / -9

Try organic, it has more pesticides :)

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ApexVeritas 3 points ago +4 / -1

Organic can have chemical sprays too, but they're generally more controlled. However, to be safe, all produce should be soaked in baking soda for at least 15 minutes and washed off. It doesn't remove everything, as chemical sprays can leach deeper into the produce than what the baking soda can neutralize, but it can remove most of it. The safest bet will always be to grow your own produce.

Given that you're intentionally trying to throw off the conversation, it still led to a constructive outlet for information sharing. Thanks.

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Adamrises 10 points ago +10 / -0

Cook a goddamn steak, jesus fucking christ

The guy might be going full schizo paranoid, but for most people "steak" isn't a meal. Its part of a meal. You know, sides and centerpieces and drinks all add up to "meal" instead of any individual piece counting. Very rare is a meal entirely compassed of one singular ingredient with zero other anything at all.

Even a steak is almost always marinated or seasoned, which would now qualify easily.

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 2 points ago +4 / -2

I checked my seasonings and dry rubs. None of them contain corn or corn products. Even my Worcestershire sauce, which I was sure would, doesn't. It's sweetened with molasses. None of my vegetables or sides contain corn. As far as drinks go, I drink water.

My argument isn't that there isn't a lot of corn products everywhere, it's that if you're eating something containing corn syrup for literally every single meal of your entire life, then the problem is ultimately you. I don't even go out of my way to avoid corn syrup, and I still barely ingest any because I just don't like things that are sickeningly sweet.

Just eat simple and you'll break this rule a thousand times without even trying. It's not Monsanto's fault that so many people think that unless food is smothered in ketchup and hot sauce then it's "boring".

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Adamrises 6 points ago +6 / -0

Its not impossible to avoid, but it also isn't easy. If you like any drinks that aren't just water, or enjoy any plethora of foods that reasonably shouldn't have corn syrup in it then you are shit out of luck unless you can buy local or find the specific things that don't. Which is the point, how many things that reasonably shouldn't have it in them, that nobody asked for it to be, but still does.

You've taken his extreme, and jumped to the opposite. That everyone is a ketchup smothering addict to sweetness that are all going out of their way to ingest corn syrup whenever they can.

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BidenLikesMiners 2 points ago +2 / -0

And whats the deal with glycerol esters of rosin? is that more corn starch byproducts? and just as bad, or some lab made sugars?

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Adamrises 2 points ago +2 / -0

Far as I can tell its mostly just a lab made sugar, mostly made of mixing soybean/palm chemicals with resin.

Seems to be less bad for you overall than most sugars, but is used far less for food because of its much more profitable use in the growing industry of vaping, as well as historically medicine.

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MargarineMongoose 0 points ago +1 / -1

Meh, steak is a meal unto itself. I used to have a steak for lunch pretty regularly when I was working from home. No sides, no drink, just a steak slathered in butter, salt and pepper. It was a good meal. You gotta get the fatty cuts though, then you'll really get that satiation.

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NihilistCaregiver 9 points ago +9 / -0

Big Ag is VERY proud of that ingredient list.

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SolidSnakeOil 7 points ago +9 / -2

I don't know how I missed it the first time: Contains no dairy ingredients. Formula should really be a last resort if possible.

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0000Titan 8 points ago +12 / -4

This is specifically for lactose-intolerant babies. This post is stupid.

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ObsidianSword 5 points ago +5 / -0

Lactose intolerance is super rare for babies. This is made for vegan parents, and ignorant parents who blindly believe "plant anything" is healthy.

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MargarineMongoose 3 points ago +6 / -3

That really seems like a genetic flaw. A baby that is incapable of breast feeding...how does it survive long enough to ingest solid food in a state of nature?

I know there are parts of the world where lactose intolerance is the norm for most of the population, but having that inability to drink milk right from the start seems really weird. I would've expected that to be something that developed over time so that the infant could breastfeed initially at least. It doesn't make sense to me from an evolutionary perspective.

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AmericaFirstMAGA88 6 points ago +6 / -0

Dont tits like ummm make baby formula? Or maybe I'm just lost in clown world idk anymore

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TakenusernameA 4 points ago +4 / -0

I wonder what those roughly spherical organs on female humans are for?

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RealDrJester -12 points ago +3 / -15

A lot of the ingredients in there are actual scientific names of vitamins. Since it doesn't contain milk, or animal products, they need to artificially insert vitamins in there. For instance, the last ingredient? B12.

Being afraid of scientific names is akin of seeing a physics or a math formula and think they are a recitation to summon Satan.

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SolidSnakeOil 8 points ago +8 / -0

I think we all get the scientific names for the vitamins but that's not the problem. The problem is that 50% of the formula is some form of corn or soy. And if a baby can't ingest milk, there's a deeper issue at play. Lactose intolerance isn't something you naturally have at birth. That something that's developed after weening. Mostly in cultures were milk isn't big in their diet.

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RealDrJester 0 points ago +5 / -5

Yep, that is a problem. Especially with retarded vegan parents who will prefer this over any animal food. Besides, there is a very high chance that the mother can't produce milk or her milk is deficient of nutrients if she is vegan. But overall, most of the weird names are that(vitamins), including food coloring.