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DontDoxMeBreaux 25 points ago +25 / -0

A Cleveland County Schools spokesperson told WBTV that Durden met the requirements to be a substitute teacher in the district because she is over 18 years old and graduated high school.

I continue to be surprised that there's still faith I have left to lose in the public school system.

FuckGenderPolitics 12 points ago +12 / -0

I was just thinking that. I thought it required a bachelor's degree plus teacher licensure, but at least in my state you can apparently get a temporary authorization to do it with a high school diploma and experience working with kids. We all know subs are just babysitters but I didn't think the state recognized that.

BidenLikesMiners 7 points ago +8 / -1

Durden was reportedly paid $80 per day

Terrible salary too, 10 an hour to deal with kids? lmao

Rexmo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tyler Durden strikes again!

Ahaus667 [S] 14 points ago +14 / -0

Right below the story in archive

A 45-year-old middle school employee has been charged with forcible sodomy after allegedly sexually assaulting a 14-year-old boy in Oklahoma. A statement from the Oklahoma County Sheriff's Office accuses Shannon Heslip of forcing the victim to engage in sexual acts in the garage of her Nicoma Park residence.

ThatYellowBastard 7 points ago +7 / -0

Outrage? Anyone?


Assassin47 5 points ago +5 / -0

Outrage? Anyone?


Haha don't hold your breath.

I'll say though in the case of OP's story I think there should be some mitigating credit given due to the small age difference between her and the victims. It's wrong, but not the same as with the 45yo. (ignoring the whole sex-act too)

I'd say the same if it was male. It's crazy to me that a 19yo is teaching middle-schoolers. Maybe she's a deviant that would do it at any age, but we don't know that.

Galean 5 points ago +5 / -0

I am starting to think that schools attract pedophiles. I happen to have a story that is relevant. My history teacher in high school, moved to our school when I was in 10th grade. It happens that a good friend of mine was going at that school he was transferred from and apparently he moved after having an affair with an underage student. But since the parents of the boy were ashamed no charges were filled and he just moved to another school. The teacher was like 40-45 at the time. We thought it was funny and some guys actually flirted with the guy to get better grades.

Fucked up world.

LauriThorne 13 points ago +13 / -0

Oh you mean a job that puts you in a position of authority over children attracts pedos?

No waaaayyyyy

Ahaus667 [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Had a few lesbian teachers that were clearly grooming students. One had to quit and the admin hushed it up. Shit like this has been happening for decades and it’s not the straight men who seek teaching positions to groom kids.

ernsithe 4 points ago +4 / -0

Teaching is an easy fit for people who never learned how to exist outside the social structure of a school. They become teachers but view themselves as if they were just upperclassmen: having authority but still thinking they're roughly peers.

Steampunk_Moustache 9 points ago +9 / -0

19 years old, immediately trying to get into a job with kids, and immediately sending sexually explicit messages and video? Guess we know what her career motivation is.

Benevolentdictator 7 points ago +7 / -0

Durden was reportedly paid $80 per day to work as a substitute teacher from Nov. 8 to Nov. 17 at Crest Middle School in Shelby, N.C.


A Cleveland County Schools spokesperson told WBTV that Durden met the requirements to be a substitute teacher in the district because she is over 18 years old and graduated high school.

A substitute teacher policy shows that preference is given to teachers that are licensed but that the "school system will employ substitute teachers as deemed appropriate by the administration and in accordance with State Board policies."

It seems a least part of the problem is that the school board is going cheap and cutting corners by paying unlicensed substitute teachers like minimum wage Burger King employees.

theradraccoon 3 points ago +5 / -2


borga 3 points ago +3 / -0

19? Teacher? What was she teaching?

yvaN_ehT_nioJ 6 points ago +6 / -0

Doesn't matter what. I don't know what the rules around it are up in North Carolina, but where I am you just need a high school diploma to substitute teach. It's glorified babysitting since you just fill in for a day here, maybe 2 or 3 there when a teacher is out sick, has to leave early for an appointment, anything like that.

The teachers will usually leave a list of things they want the sub to have the kids down while they're out but the general assumption is that's just a day of school lost for good because it's a toss-up whether the sub actually gets the kids to do what is—at most— glorified busy work.

Course, for long-term sub positions you need an actual degree and probably something along the lines of successfully finishing the Praxis-II exam for that subject. This is different from the normal sub work because you'll be in charge of that class for months, maybe even a semester or even longer depending.

But yeah, generally you just need a fucking high school diploma to be in charge of someone's kids for a day in the school systems.

Source: had the misfortune to teach for a bit in the mid-10s. Substitute taught before that.

To be fair, a lot of subs will be fresh out of college with an education major diploma and requisite certs to be able to teach, but depending on your location and subject matter you'll have to work your way up into a full time teaching job from the drag that is substitute teaching. More often the case if it's some kid certified to teach English or History without having a coaching background or something similar to back your CV up. Not so much a concern if you're certified to teach math or science. In fact, depending on your state you won't even need to have an education major to teach those subject areas so long as you come from a science or math background they're so hard up for math and science teachers.