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posted ago by AntonioOfVenice ago by AntonioOfVenice +52 / -0

According to James Forsyth:

Khalid Mahmood has resigned from the Labour front bench saying that 'A London-based bourgeoisie, with the support of brigades of woke social media warriors, has effectively captured the party' source

This comes after the historic election loss for Labour in local elections, where the party bled even more in working-class areas than it did in 2019.

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ClockworkFool 14 points ago +14 / -0

Well I mean, that isn't news. It's exactly what the Corbynites were fighting against, it's the exact battle that has been raging in the party for a while now, and why Corbyn was both so embraced by the grass-roots and so feared and loathed by the media and establishment wing of the party.

If you wanted to do something about it, then you should have done more back before Corbyn's fate was sealed.

Ultimately, that fight was lost a while back though, and there's nothing to be done anytime soon. This is all that's left of the "Labour Party". The battle for it's soul is over, and Starmer and his establishment types are who won.

The fact that the grass roots won't suddenly abandon their core principles to rally around the victors, the knives they used on their fellow labour party members still in hand, should come as no surprise.

The next general election is likely to make the one that led to Corbyn's resignation look like a tour de force, and they'll still be parroting the nonsense that Starmer is an asset all the way.

This comes after the historic election loss for Labour in local elections, where the party bled even more in working-class areas than it did in 2019.

One way to put it. They even lost a seat so hardcore Labour that it had only been in Tory hands once or twice since the end of WW2. A seat in a region that voted overwhelmingly in favour of Brexit. A seat that they put forward a noted Remainer for, and who in the aftermath of a crushing and frankly not that surprising defeat, are still describing as a good candidate and the correct one to have put forward.

EDIT - There's a bleakly fun parallel here. The establishment wing of Labour didn't oppose Corbyn because they were afraid he would fail, they opposed him because they were terrified he might succeed. This paralleled the Rino/Trump situation, but it's also pretty much the reason why the Tories spent so much time trying to prevent a Boris Johnson leadership, and this is perhaps the exact fate they tried to prevent in the last couple of leadership elections.

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AntonioOfVenice [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

The establishment wing of Labour didn't oppose Corbyn because they were afraid he would fail, they opposed him because they were terrified he might succeed.

That makes sense. What is often not understood, is that the top brass in an organization is far more interested in its position within the organization, than it is in the success of the organization. It makes sense that a faction opposed to Corbyn would try to undermine his prospects, if that would ensure a Labour loss and thereby a victory for them within the party.

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ClockworkFool 7 points ago +7 / -0

I mean, the moment Corbyn confirmed that he would consider putting Tony Blair on trial for war-crimes, or at least having an inquest or something, his fate was pretty permenantly sealed. It was very much the Blairites that were at the heart of the Labour push to ensure that Labour under Corbyn lost at any cost.

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APDSmith 3 points ago +3 / -0

True, but it's not like Momentum, Corbyn's base, were lily-white themselves. This is two thoroughly unpleasant groups tearing what's left of the Labour party into pieces so they can claim primacy over the carcass.

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w-duranty6489 14 points ago +15 / -1

Khalid Mahmood has resigned from the Labour front bench saying that 'A London-based bourgeoisie, with the support of brigades of woke social media warriors, has effectively captured the party'

Why didn't you tell us before you quit Labor.

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ClockworkFool 11 points ago +11 / -0

Haven't looked deeper, but "quitting the labour front bench" doesn't mean leaving labour, it means becoming "a back bencher", still presumably doing the work of an MP but no longer being part of the "front rank" or the shadow cabinet etc, or something along those lines. I forget the specifics off the top of my head.

Back benchers retain party affiliation, but are less directly under the control of whoever is nominally in charge of the party at the time, and are much more free to vote against party line, etc.

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Steampunk_Moustache 7 points ago +7 / -0

He probably believed that it could be wrestled back from them once Corbyn was kicked out. But it's now clear that that isn't going to happen any time soon.

The party is basicaly dead outside the M25 and a thin sliver of the most urbanised areas of the north.

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ArtemisFoul 8 points ago +10 / -2

Yes, we know. Now kindly fuck off back to Kidfuckistan.

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TheImpossible1 4 points ago +5 / -1

Your party is still worthless.

It will be hollowed out and used to fight back against BoJo and his matriarchal allies.

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APDSmith 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ha - the rebuttal - "But they did well in Salford and Preston, so that can't be true!"

Don't know anything about Preston but Salford?

Salford, northern base of both BBC and ITV studios?