I wonder if they'll start replacing dissertation committees with Scientific Justice Tribunals. Instead of making a 'defense', you have to preform some sort of elaborate ritual to become part of the elite technocratic class.
Masks aren't even marginally helpful. If anything they're worse because people feel emboldened and they interact with others more often than they would.
He sounds too intelligent and aware to be left-wing. "Has been published by ZeroHedge, RT.com, OffGuardian" etc. Looks like everything he writes he lists under satire, probably so it doesn't get cancelled.
users who started brigading the sub with ridiculous claims that everyone is going to be forced to wear masks far into the future long after everyone has been vaccinated
I think they actually believe this. The absolute morons.
You have to wear a mask with a vaccine, and the disease mutates at an extremely accelerated rate, to the point where it's likely that there are currently multiple strains in a year.
You're a god-damned fool if you think that the masks are ever coming off:
If you don't have 100% vaccine adoption, there will to be too many people who haven't been vaccinated to allow the lockdowns to be lifted and the masks to come off. If you do have 100% vaccine adoption, there will be another strain that the vaccine won't cover, and therefore there will be too many people who don't have the new vaccine to allow the lockdowns to be lifted and the masks to come off.
You only get to not be locked down, or not be forced to wear a mask if you've donated your blood to a government tracing service and/or if you are a member of the inner party.
I'm gonna post my full thread with this janny here. The janny's statements will be in quotes, and I'll just post my replies as normal replies.
You were part of a childish band of users who started brigading the sub with ridiculous claims that everyone is going to be forced to wear masks far into the future long after everyone has been vaccinated and that you weren't going to wear a mask in friends' houses even if they wanted you to.
You were banned for comments that were verging on being anti-mask and which were likely to heighten anxiety on a subreddit that is mostly used by people who are really struggling with health anxiety.
The fact that you've posted here to whinge and feel validated suggests you're young and immature rather that genuinely malicious. No harm done - you'll grow up one day.
Users harassing genuinely vulnerable people on my sub and pushing anti-mask narratives don't count then? And l don't have a right to stand up to people talking about me behind my back? Sorry, my mistake for thinking l was dealing with grownups.
Get over yourself. You came here to start shit. That's harassment by Reddit's standards.
No one mentioned your name. Yet you came here to stalk a user that you didn't like, and tried to start shit in our sub. That is harassment. You are violating Reddit's rules. I don't give a shit that the rules aren't normally applied to you because you speak a corporate-sponsored narrative, and moderate a default sub.
Don't pretend to give 2 and one half shits about 'vulnerable people' when you engage in targeted harassment, and you've abused your glorified hall monitor powers to target people who can't fight back.
Who can't fight back? Isn't that what you're doing right now? "A corporate-sponsored narrative"? Really? What "corporate sponsored narrative"? That masks work? Or this crazy loon idea that governments are going to force people to wear them forever because.... why exactly? It's so pathetically stupid l genuinely don't know what l'm being accused of. Please enlighten me.
It doesn't matter if you think you should "fight back", or if you think I'm "fighting back". I'm the moderator here. You're violating Reddit's sitewide rules. You are engaging in targeted harassment when you stalk users to other subs. Your jurisdiction ends at your sub. Simple as. That is Reddit's sitewide rules. We abide by them. You think don't have to because the rules aren't enforced on default subs. But I have to enforce the rules to a T. That includes enforcing the rules you, even if it's your first time.
As for corporate sponsored narratives... you're part of a default sub: every word out of your mouth is corporately palatable, or it doesn't get tolerated. That's how Reddit has been for quite some time. Again, everywhere else on Reddit, the rules don't apply to you the same way they apply to everyone else. We don't have corporate value the way that default subs do.
This isn't about whatever some user said that you don't like. This about you thinking that being a default janny makes you too important and cool to follow the rules. You are engaging in targeted harassment of users in our sub. You will not be allowed to do that.
If you had a problem with that users, it ended at the boundary of your sub.
But your whingey little friends are allowed to misrepresent the sub I moderate - not a default sub, by the way, and if you're mistaking it for r/coronavirus not once has there been any interference from the Reddit Admins in what is or isn't allowed to be said on that sub. I'm not "stalking" or engaging in "targeted harassment", I'm standing up to someone who came to my sub and engaged in targeted bullying of people who are genuinely scared about COVID19 by pushing literally insane conspiracy garbage and, when I banned them, came to your sub to whine about it. Am I not allowed to give my side of the story? To stand up for myself? Wow, some free speech monitor you are. Classic.
You moderate 10 subs, look for the one that is a default.
In any case, there is always interference from the Reddit Admins in what is or isn't allowed to be said on every sub, including this one. This is why what you did was targeted harassment, we've seen the Admins enforce rules based on behavior like yours. We don't allow any of users to post in any threads they post because one instance of that happening is considered targeted harassment, and can cause an entire sub to be banned without warning as a brigading sub.
Again, by Reddit's rules, you are engaging in harassment, and I have a valid claim that all of your subs that you moderate may be engaging in brigading, and all of them should be removed without a single word of warning.
But again, that won't happen to you. You're a default janny. You're too important to have plebeian rules enforced against you.
Unless I enforce them... which I happen to be obligated to do.
So no, you're not allowed to "defend yourself" from the user's disagreeable opinions. And you're right, that isn't very free speech, but you're not on a free speech platform. You're on a corporate speech platform. The user you didn't like has apparently been permanently banned from the site. You can't have free speech on this site, because you got him removed and now he can't defend himselfeither.
If you wanted to engage in free speech, you should have asked your masters to put it back into the site.
But if you did that, you'd lose your mind with all the sacrilegious anti-corporate 'misinformation' and dangerous & degenerate assault speech that would hurt 'vulnerable' populations of victims you cultivate for your own sick, twisted, sense of power.
Spare me, wise janny of the patrician subs, from your lecture about the defense of Freedom of Speech in this slave market of a website you defend.
Which isn't even getting into the psychological issue of people assuming themselves more safe because of the mask, and thereby engaging in riskier behavior anyway.
As such, most people seem to think social distancing is only without the mask, instead of both being the "necessary" part. Such as the riots.
I know the rules are fucking burdensome as fuck, but it's amazing the level of leeway that Reddit will grant everyone who they tolerate.
It reminds me when r/Anarchism was talking about firebombing a bull full of Christian political activists who were opposing something related to transgenderism. Probably the bathroom thing. They literally said they wanted to put gasoline soaked rags into the fuel tank and burn the bus up with everyone inside.
The Reddit Admins contacted the moderators of the sub directly to tell them that they can't just keep ignoring threats of violence and terrorism like that. However, the mods refused to remove the comment, so the Admins removed it for them. Then the mods made this big stink about how the Admins weren't allowing them to say fairly unrelated and innocuous things like their standard Antifa chants.
The Admins were cutting them breaks left and right, and the anarchists were too stupid to understand that they were being helped out.
I mean, you can see this play out pretty easily across GG's history.
Back in the day SRS, TMoR, or whoever was basically immune to consequences. Admins just allowed anything. Sometimes rare shit had to get action'd but never anything further.
With enough dick sucking, KIA gained a measure of their favor and has been allowed a lot more free existence relative to most Culture War subs. As long as they still bark at the right stuff, they will likely maintain such.
KIA2 is far less sucky sucky, and much more volatile as a group, and so we have absurdly strict hoops to jump through and the most bullshit of rules. While the Primetards mock us for all our additional rules constantly (mostly out of hate for Antonio it seems) they fail to understand its a lot more free existence despite it. Reminds me of a quote from Nier Replicant:
The rules do not exist to bind you, they exist so you may know your freedoms.
While still oppressive, at least we know what we can do and can work around it. No pre-emptive thought criming.
With enough dick sucking, KIA gained a measure of their favor and has been allowed a lot more free existence relative to most Culture War subs. As long as they still bark at the right stuff, they will likely maintain such.
I don't really believe that. It's too much containment. And the way this works inevitably, is that they get betrayed and shut down anyway. There's no way that a place that identifies with GamerGate will be allowed to live un-raped. Seeing how hostile the admins behavior has been, I feel like allowing the original sub back after the David-Me incident is almost a fluke. One day, no matter what, they'll pay the price for having dared to exist as a relic of reactionary & counter-revolutionary thought.
(mostly out of hate for Antonio it seems)
AoV genuinely gets on their nerves repeatedly. Even when he really doesn't have too. He knows how to get in people's fucking craw. He still wants KiA to do better, and that craw-maneuver is a desperate attempt to make them do the right thing. I never really had that same desire because I never really spent much time on the original KiA. I never found it to be a worthwhile argument to try and push them kicking and screaming into the right direction.
While still oppressive, at least we know what we can do and can work around it.
That seems to be the real key with authoritarianism. Vague enforcement and unknowable regulations aren't a bug, it's a feature. A procedural, bureaucratic, maniac is not going to have a problem trying to make vast Byzantine regulations... but he wants you to follow them. He'll print you a handy guide to stay within the regulations. He'll even let you know about the latest changes.
The authoritarian would never do that. At this point, I'd go so far as to say that institutional vagueness should be seen as a hostile act. The only reason that someone would not tell you the rules, is so that they can punish you arbitrarily. They want to punish you. They don't want your compliance. If they wanted your compliance, they would tell you how to comply.
The authoritarian doesn't want compliance, he wants submission. Once the authoritarian has submission, then procedures are totally irrelevant. You don't need laws to enforce the will of the tyrant. The mere presence of the tyrant is enough.
And that's actually where my counter lies, and it is a dangerous one. The Balance of Terror between The Tyrant and The Bureaucrat. The Bureaucrat never disobeys, but the force of law that the Bureaucrat creates is a useful moral weapon. But he builds it intentionally outside of the Tyrant's immediate reach. It could, in theory, be weilded by anyone. That's the allure: all are answerable to the law. But the tyrant must never point the weapon at him, and the bureaucrat is the one who makes it more powerful.
If the tyrant ignores or attacks the law, it can be used against him. If the tyrant legitimizes it, it can become independent of his control. If he delegitimizes it, he can't use it. If he leaves it alone with the bureaucrat, the bureaucrat will use it for himself.
A smart tyrant will quickly realize that the bureaucracy must either be placated, set against itself, or fucking purged. I'm hoping to see how long I can drag this out on Reddit before someone wakes up and realizes, "Oh, no. Purge those little shits." I'm hoping to get the chance to apply our "No election interference exists" rule on the Belarusian Election.
And the way this works inevitably, is that they get betrayed and shut down anyway. There's no way that a place that identifies with GamerGate will be allowed to live un-raped
I don't disagree, but I think the Admins realized early on that allowing a milquetoast place like that to exist, filled with mods willing to compromise a lot, is the best option. Its pure containment designed to "outlast" the drama.
And outlast it has, the place is a shell and shadow of itself that barely does anything but circlejerk about how mad it is while doing nothing about it. The Admins will take it one day, but its much more likely as an afterthought after a single person gets too uppity.
AoV genuinely gets on their nerves repeatedly. Even when he really doesn't have too.
He does that to anyone. I've known him around these places a long while and we are only acquaintances because of our shared goals of opposing the KIA mods and much of the culture war. We went back and forth on KIA1 and we still go back and forth now. He grates the nerves to argue with some days. Not a bad guy, but certainly a character and I like him enough.
But they were apparently friends at some points, you would think they know him to not take it as personal. Because their hate is incredibly personally driven. Nearly every action taken that broke KIA for months seems to be taken in direct response and in spite of him alone. I don't know what goes on behind closed doors, but to the outside it made them look horrifically childish.
Vague enforcement and unknowable regulations aren't a bug, it's a feature
I agree, that's what I was getting at. Things like "on the verge of anti-mask" are designed not to punish you, but to make everyone else hesitate in fear of getting the same lash. The paranoia built up by constant fear of the "line" is their goal.
Something even the couyons on KIA1 don't get when they attack people for vaguely approaching things that they don't like like anti-women or anti-Jew.
The Admins will take it one day, but its much more likely as an afterthought after a single person gets too uppity.
Agreed, I bet you the person that ends it will carry around something in their Twitter bio as a title like "Killed GamerGate" as a virtue signal.
Nearly every action taken that broke KIA for months seems to be taken in direct response and in spite of him alone.
I'm not gonna say all of them were, but it sure seems like a chunk of them were.
Something even the couyons on KIA1 don't get when they attack people for vaguely approaching things that they don't like like anti-women or anti-Jew.
Honestly, part of the problem with Reddit janitoring is that not only do I have to engage with all antisemitism, I actually have to start looking for it everywhere in everything like a god-damned paranoid lunatic.
It's like the inverse of Jewish Conspiracy Theory nonsense. I've got a massive wall of comments with little red lines going from one comment to another, with /pol memes written on sticky notes and circled repeatedly.
Hitler's Birthday! -----> PATTON????
I've genuinely had to apologize for removing completely innocuous statements that my brain tried to pattern-recognize into an antisemetic meme. ...which is also an pol meme... That being said, it would be easier if the alt-right weren't actively trying to hide their power level, but what choice do they have if they're constantly being censored? The censorship begets the hyper-sensitivity, begets the power-level-hiding, begets the censor's paranoia, begets the over-reaction, begets the genuine oppression, begets the justification of victimhood, begets the radicalism.
:p
The whole censorship structure only feeds into the problem. It never fixes it.
I'm not gonna say all of them were, but it sure seems like a chunk of them were.
Most of their team there barely even is in attendance. The ones that were in constant action (Talent, Pink, Rarararara, Bane, Shad) all displayed personal beefs with him that guided their action. And as they were the mods doing most of the frontend work, I assume they were most of the power in general.
I actually have to start looking for it everywhere in everything like a god-damned paranoid lunatic.
And I don't blame you because the book of "dog whistles" grows everyday and even random items are now bigotry and evil. Its impossible to keep up.
Not that you aren't a janny cuck about these things, but I get it sometimes.
The censorship begets the hyper-sensitivity, begets the power-level-hiding, begets the censor's paranoia, begets the over-reaction, begets the genuine oppression, begets the justification of victimhood, begets the radicalism.
I mean, using antisemitism as an example, that's literally how it all gets started. 75% of the American population likely has never met a Jew, or at least knew they were one. Yet nearly every American online has seen a "SHUT IT DOWN THE GOYIM KNOW" moment, often over something completely innocent.
For half, they just shrug and "something something Holocaust" and forget it. The other half asks why it was shutdown when it was a nothingburger, gets shot down harder and descends deeper and deeper in search of answers.
And now a group he has never met, that he would otherwise not give a thought to, has become his enemy. As such, a radical is born.
But seriously, how likely is it that some random woman with next to no karma (I used to get more than she has overall in one month.) gets control of every Covid sub?
Quite likely. People do not get mod positions as a result of karma, as that is bestowed by the users. It's other moderators who decides who gets to be a moderator.
Either she doesn't exist, she doesn't know the account exists or she has strong ties to some shady organizations. You don't just luck into power like that.
Whenever I point this out, people claim that I'm playing the victim or something - but in all honesty, it's not luck unless you have a hard-on for stomping on people's necks.
Science, of course, is about purging anyone who questions the orthodoxy of Science.
Hail Science.
When discussions like this happen in the secret science moderator sub, that's fairly accurate.
https://i.maga.host/f3yfVpe.png
Giant ball of gas studies same.
I wonder if they'll start replacing dissertation committees with Scientific Justice Tribunals. Instead of making a 'defense', you have to preform some sort of elaborate ritual to become part of the elite technocratic class.
Masks aren't even marginally helpful. If anything they're worse because people feel emboldened and they interact with others more often than they would.
https://archive.is/0bSz7
He sounds too intelligent and aware to be left-wing. "Has been published by ZeroHedge, RT.com, OffGuardian" etc. Looks like everything he writes he lists under satire, probably so it doesn't get cancelled.
On the disclaimer, it says he's a satirist but some people will definitely take it as genuine statement.
This is where I got that comment from yesterday:
I think they actually believe this. The absolute morons.
You have to wear a mask with a vaccine, and the disease mutates at an extremely accelerated rate, to the point where it's likely that there are currently multiple strains in a year.
You're a god-damned fool if you think that the masks are ever coming off:
If you don't have 100% vaccine adoption, there will to be too many people who haven't been vaccinated to allow the lockdowns to be lifted and the masks to come off. If you do have 100% vaccine adoption, there will be another strain that the vaccine won't cover, and therefore there will be too many people who don't have the new vaccine to allow the lockdowns to be lifted and the masks to come off.
You only get to not be locked down, or not be forced to wear a mask if you've donated your blood to a government tracing service and/or if you are a member of the inner party.
I'm gonna post my full thread with this janny here. The janny's statements will be in quotes, and I'll just post my replies as normal replies.
Don't come here to harass users. Whatever Janny powers you think you have, they don't apply here.
Get over yourself. You came here to start shit. That's harassment by Reddit's standards.
No one mentioned your name. Yet you came here to stalk a user that you didn't like, and tried to start shit in our sub. That is harassment. You are violating Reddit's rules. I don't give a shit that the rules aren't normally applied to you because you speak a corporate-sponsored narrative, and moderate a default sub.
Don't pretend to give 2 and one half shits about 'vulnerable people' when you engage in targeted harassment, and you've abused your glorified hall monitor powers to target people who can't fight back.
It doesn't matter if you think you should "fight back", or if you think I'm "fighting back". I'm the moderator here. You're violating Reddit's sitewide rules. You are engaging in targeted harassment when you stalk users to other subs. Your jurisdiction ends at your sub. Simple as. That is Reddit's sitewide rules. We abide by them. You think don't have to because the rules aren't enforced on default subs. But I have to enforce the rules to a T. That includes enforcing the rules you, even if it's your first time.
As for corporate sponsored narratives... you're part of a default sub: every word out of your mouth is corporately palatable, or it doesn't get tolerated. That's how Reddit has been for quite some time. Again, everywhere else on Reddit, the rules don't apply to you the same way they apply to everyone else. We don't have corporate value the way that default subs do.
This isn't about whatever some user said that you don't like. This about you thinking that being a default janny makes you too important and cool to follow the rules. You are engaging in targeted harassment of users in our sub. You will not be allowed to do that.
If you had a problem with that users, it ended at the boundary of your sub.
You moderate 10 subs, look for the one that is a default.
In any case, there is always interference from the Reddit Admins in what is or isn't allowed to be said on every sub, including this one. This is why what you did was targeted harassment, we've seen the Admins enforce rules based on behavior like yours. We don't allow any of users to post in any threads they post because one instance of that happening is considered targeted harassment, and can cause an entire sub to be banned without warning as a brigading sub.
Again, by Reddit's rules, you are engaging in harassment, and I have a valid claim that all of your subs that you moderate may be engaging in brigading, and all of them should be removed without a single word of warning.
But again, that won't happen to you. You're a default janny. You're too important to have plebeian rules enforced against you.
Unless I enforce them... which I happen to be obligated to do.
So no, you're not allowed to "defend yourself" from the user's disagreeable opinions. And you're right, that isn't very free speech, but you're not on a free speech platform. You're on a corporate speech platform. The user you didn't like has apparently been permanently banned from the site. You can't have free speech on this site, because you got him removed and now he can't defend himself either.
If you wanted to engage in free speech, you should have asked your masters to put it back into the site.
But if you did that, you'd lose your mind with all the sacrilegious anti-corporate 'misinformation' and dangerous & degenerate assault speech that would hurt 'vulnerable' populations of victims you cultivate for your own sick, twisted, sense of power.
Spare me, wise janny of the patrician subs, from your lecture about the defense of Freedom of Speech in this slave market of a website you defend.
I liked the part where Dom had teeth.
I'm a janny.
There was trash.
simple as.
We have the best faggots.
Even the best estimate of masks has them at a 50% drop in infection rates. That's not anti-mask, that's science you dolts.
Not even close.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=%22masks%22+%22infections%22&filter=years.1949-2019
tl;dr they might do something for the general public, but there's no statistically significant proof of that fact
also, if you apply common sense, if you're not sick, wearing a mask does nothing. That's just common sense.
Which isn't even getting into the psychological issue of people assuming themselves more safe because of the mask, and thereby engaging in riskier behavior anyway.
As such, most people seem to think social distancing is only without the mask, instead of both being the "necessary" part. Such as the riots.
We shall see.
I know the rules are fucking burdensome as fuck, but it's amazing the level of leeway that Reddit will grant everyone who they tolerate.
It reminds me when r/Anarchism was talking about firebombing a bull full of Christian political activists who were opposing something related to transgenderism. Probably the bathroom thing. They literally said they wanted to put gasoline soaked rags into the fuel tank and burn the bus up with everyone inside.
The Reddit Admins contacted the moderators of the sub directly to tell them that they can't just keep ignoring threats of violence and terrorism like that. However, the mods refused to remove the comment, so the Admins removed it for them. Then the mods made this big stink about how the Admins weren't allowing them to say fairly unrelated and innocuous things like their standard Antifa chants.
The Admins were cutting them breaks left and right, and the anarchists were too stupid to understand that they were being helped out.
I mean, you can see this play out pretty easily across GG's history.
Back in the day SRS, TMoR, or whoever was basically immune to consequences. Admins just allowed anything. Sometimes rare shit had to get action'd but never anything further.
With enough dick sucking, KIA gained a measure of their favor and has been allowed a lot more free existence relative to most Culture War subs. As long as they still bark at the right stuff, they will likely maintain such.
KIA2 is far less sucky sucky, and much more volatile as a group, and so we have absurdly strict hoops to jump through and the most bullshit of rules. While the Primetards mock us for all our additional rules constantly (mostly out of hate for Antonio it seems) they fail to understand its a lot more free existence despite it. Reminds me of a quote from Nier Replicant:
While still oppressive, at least we know what we can do and can work around it. No pre-emptive thought criming.
I don't really believe that. It's too much containment. And the way this works inevitably, is that they get betrayed and shut down anyway. There's no way that a place that identifies with GamerGate will be allowed to live un-raped. Seeing how hostile the admins behavior has been, I feel like allowing the original sub back after the David-Me incident is almost a fluke. One day, no matter what, they'll pay the price for having dared to exist as a relic of reactionary & counter-revolutionary thought.
AoV genuinely gets on their nerves repeatedly. Even when he really doesn't have too. He knows how to get in people's fucking craw. He still wants KiA to do better, and that craw-maneuver is a desperate attempt to make them do the right thing. I never really had that same desire because I never really spent much time on the original KiA. I never found it to be a worthwhile argument to try and push them kicking and screaming into the right direction.
That seems to be the real key with authoritarianism. Vague enforcement and unknowable regulations aren't a bug, it's a feature. A procedural, bureaucratic, maniac is not going to have a problem trying to make vast Byzantine regulations... but he wants you to follow them. He'll print you a handy guide to stay within the regulations. He'll even let you know about the latest changes.
The authoritarian would never do that. At this point, I'd go so far as to say that institutional vagueness should be seen as a hostile act. The only reason that someone would not tell you the rules, is so that they can punish you arbitrarily. They want to punish you. They don't want your compliance. If they wanted your compliance, they would tell you how to comply.
The authoritarian doesn't want compliance, he wants submission. Once the authoritarian has submission, then procedures are totally irrelevant. You don't need laws to enforce the will of the tyrant. The mere presence of the tyrant is enough.
And that's actually where my counter lies, and it is a dangerous one. The Balance of Terror between The Tyrant and The Bureaucrat. The Bureaucrat never disobeys, but the force of law that the Bureaucrat creates is a useful moral weapon. But he builds it intentionally outside of the Tyrant's immediate reach. It could, in theory, be weilded by anyone. That's the allure: all are answerable to the law. But the tyrant must never point the weapon at him, and the bureaucrat is the one who makes it more powerful.
If the tyrant ignores or attacks the law, it can be used against him. If the tyrant legitimizes it, it can become independent of his control. If he delegitimizes it, he can't use it. If he leaves it alone with the bureaucrat, the bureaucrat will use it for himself.
A smart tyrant will quickly realize that the bureaucracy must either be placated, set against itself, or fucking purged. I'm hoping to see how long I can drag this out on Reddit before someone wakes up and realizes, "Oh, no. Purge those little shits." I'm hoping to get the chance to apply our "No election interference exists" rule on the Belarusian Election.
I don't disagree, but I think the Admins realized early on that allowing a milquetoast place like that to exist, filled with mods willing to compromise a lot, is the best option. Its pure containment designed to "outlast" the drama.
And outlast it has, the place is a shell and shadow of itself that barely does anything but circlejerk about how mad it is while doing nothing about it. The Admins will take it one day, but its much more likely as an afterthought after a single person gets too uppity.
He does that to anyone. I've known him around these places a long while and we are only acquaintances because of our shared goals of opposing the KIA mods and much of the culture war. We went back and forth on KIA1 and we still go back and forth now. He grates the nerves to argue with some days. Not a bad guy, but certainly a character and I like him enough.
But they were apparently friends at some points, you would think they know him to not take it as personal. Because their hate is incredibly personally driven. Nearly every action taken that broke KIA for months seems to be taken in direct response and in spite of him alone. I don't know what goes on behind closed doors, but to the outside it made them look horrifically childish.
I agree, that's what I was getting at. Things like "on the verge of anti-mask" are designed not to punish you, but to make everyone else hesitate in fear of getting the same lash. The paranoia built up by constant fear of the "line" is their goal.
Something even the couyons on KIA1 don't get when they attack people for vaguely approaching things that they don't like like anti-women or anti-Jew.
Agreed, I bet you the person that ends it will carry around something in their Twitter bio as a title like "Killed GamerGate" as a virtue signal.
I'm not gonna say all of them were, but it sure seems like a chunk of them were.
Honestly, part of the problem with Reddit janitoring is that not only do I have to engage with all antisemitism, I actually have to start looking for it everywhere in everything like a god-damned paranoid lunatic.
It's like the inverse of Jewish Conspiracy Theory nonsense. I've got a massive wall of comments with little red lines going from one comment to another, with /pol memes written on sticky notes and circled repeatedly.
Hitler's Birthday! -----> PATTON????
I've genuinely had to apologize for removing completely innocuous statements that my brain tried to pattern-recognize into an antisemetic meme. ...which is also an pol meme... That being said, it would be easier if the alt-right weren't actively trying to hide their power level, but what choice do they have if they're constantly being censored? The censorship begets the hyper-sensitivity, begets the power-level-hiding, begets the censor's paranoia, begets the over-reaction, begets the genuine oppression, begets the justification of victimhood, begets the radicalism.
:p
The whole censorship structure only feeds into the problem. It never fixes it.
Most of their team there barely even is in attendance. The ones that were in constant action (Talent, Pink, Rarararara, Bane, Shad) all displayed personal beefs with him that guided their action. And as they were the mods doing most of the frontend work, I assume they were most of the power in general.
And I don't blame you because the book of "dog whistles" grows everyday and even random items are now bigotry and evil. Its impossible to keep up.
Not that you aren't a janny cuck about these things, but I get it sometimes.
I mean, using antisemitism as an example, that's literally how it all gets started. 75% of the American population likely has never met a Jew, or at least knew they were one. Yet nearly every American online has seen a "SHUT IT DOWN THE GOYIM KNOW" moment, often over something completely innocent.
For half, they just shrug and "something something Holocaust" and forget it. The other half asks why it was shutdown when it was a nothingburger, gets shot down harder and descends deeper and deeper in search of answers.
And now a group he has never met, that he would otherwise not give a thought to, has become his enemy. As such, a radical is born.
That's definitional.
It's all so tiresome.
But my bull said I had to watch, so I guess I have to.
He is a Cartesian demon.
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Masks don't work: https://archive.is/0bSz7
"We fucking love science, but only when it's coming from scientists who agree with me. Not like these people."
It's a British woman who has a (worthless) Ph.D. in Reddit studies.
Quite likely. People do not get mod positions as a result of karma, as that is bestowed by the users. It's other moderators who decides who gets to be a moderator.
Whenever I point this out, people claim that I'm playing the victim or something - but in all honesty, it's not luck unless you have a hard-on for stomping on people's necks.
But they all do.
They get one ounce of power and go crazy!
"Here, please take responsibility of counting the number of people who walk through this set of doors."
"UNLIMITED POWER!!!!"
If she has a real job, then why is she pissing about in my sub?